Talk:Neuro: Supernatural Detective

Random Notes

Yes, the descriptions for Evil Storing and Evil Low Beam are compelte fabrications - but isn't it better then leaving those fields blank!? 24.19.25.118 —Preceding comment was added at 01:59, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't there be listed about the main charathers relationship with each other? I hope we can discuss this as mature being.

Please ignore my bad spelling. My first language isn't English, but Norwegian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.109.246.28 (talk) 01:56, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Might be a mistake in the Evil Blind description. "Evil Blind (Chapter 8) (Anime Episode 5) Neuro engulfs himself and anyone else of his choice in an aura. This allows Neuro and Co within a 10 mile radius to shift into a "lower resolution" of existence." Thought it was a 10 meter radius and had a short duration. -doc 206.248.136.79 (talk) 08:06, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't think there should be a part that says that Neuro really cares for Yako, because that is really a matter of opinion and fan speculation, not a definite fact. Snapesgirl34 (talk) 04:00, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm removing the quote where Neuro talks about formerly being able to take an atom bomb and now needing to block firearms, since it's revealed shortly after that he was lying to X and the entire statement's level of validity is subject. This is also demonstrated later, when he made no effort to block many shots. The weakening thing, is a big part of the story though so it should stay. The quote is just not useful. S.R.Osuna (talk) 22:27, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

In what chapter or episode does the man named Sicks appears. Can someone site this, I am not sure he even exists although he might be in the japanese releases. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shinigamieyes93 (talk • contribs) 17:40, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Sicks is only in the manga. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.161.122.193 (talk) 02:26, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Can someone check the video games part? English isn't my first language, so I think there'll be some errors in it(Shogitan (talk) 10:40, 19 October 2008 (UTC))

Sicks?6?

I really don't make posts very often so expect a degree of error in method. Anyway, I couldn't help but notice that in recently translated chapters it was revealed that the word is indeed 'sicks' but he likes to write it 6. It has occurred to me that this whole page is using 'six' which is neither of the ways it could be written.

So to follow the format of X I'm going to predominantly use 6 and clean up the page a bit. But I kinda hope we'll switch to Sicks later. S.R.Osuna (talk) 20:45, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Personally, I think we should call him 'Norse'. --124.40.47.157 (talk) 15:38, 3 July 2008 (UTC) Oh, but on a side note: (Snip link to copyright violations) As per this, it's either 'Six' or 'Sicks' but not '6'. --124.40.47.157 (talk) 10:37, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

I think that it should be Six, in (Snip illegal link) he uses the number 6 and in the Chinese translation (Snip possibly illegal link) they use Six. 24.83.237.237 (talk) 12:05, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Please do not provide links to scanlations; they are an illegal violation of copyright, and linking to them can get Wikipedia in trouble. See WP:COPYRIGHT for more. Since the official spelling given in the Japanese edition is indeed "Sicks" that or "6" should be used. Fan translations done before the official spelling was revealed are irrelevant, as are the Chinese translations. Doceirias (talk) 20:05, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

"Sicks" is better since he's titled as such for being a human sickness. However, in chapter 134, he tells Kasai to write his name "so that even a child who can only count to ten will understand." Hence the 6. So in a way, it's both. 69.159.14.245 (talk) 11:26, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Compromise & write it as Si6ks.

Someone reorganize some stuff please

Neuro's information seems scattered so I think someone should organize it like this.

Character outline -Origin -Personality -Relationships to others

Abilities -Demon powers -Puzzles

Synopsis -Role in story, mostly the Brothers, HAL, X, and New bloodline part.

Also the spacing between characters seem off, someone fix that too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragonsblast (talk • contribs) 22:07, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

See the WP:MOS-AM for the correct way to organize character entries; this entry is much too detailed for the main article. Probably time to split characters off into a character list, but subsections within a character entry are not common on Wikipedia; the real problem here is not the formatting, but how badly written and cluttered the entire article is. Doceirias (talk) 03:57, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I never knew about that oragization before. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragonsblast (talk • contribs) 05:52, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

More reorganization

I find this article to be excessively long. Could anyone make new articles specifically for the characters, episodes, and manga chapters? Myominane (talk) 03:16, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Agreed on the character list. Episode and chapter lists have already been created. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 13:57, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Influence?

Does anyone else think it's possible that Yuusei Matsui's Neuro was influenced by Hitoshi Iwaaki's Kiseijuu/Parasyte? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.19.236.142 (talk) 08:30, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Who knows. Without a source, it doesn't matter. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 13:28, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

cleanup

I was thinking of getting to work on cleaning up here. Any helpers? Avnas Ishtaroth _{drop me a line} 03:23, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

AnmaFinotera is working on this. I also plan to help but I probably won't be doing much. Maybe copy-editing, sourcing some statements here and there, and maybe a little toward bringing it out of in-universe. Itzjustdrama ^(drama?)

I'm not actively working on it, but keeping an eye on it to watch the progress. Just don't have time to do much with it, especially with it being unlicensed in English so having info about it being very hard to find. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 04:07, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

References

Are they okay yet?DragonZero (talk) 05:46, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Characters to add

Can someone add that weird box scientist guy and his daughter Setsuna? Make a section in the Other Characters as "Others" DragonZero (talk) 06:52, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Differences between manga and anime

Need to be described; I've only seen the anime but it seems to me that the article deals mostly with manga... --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 23:21, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Other then that, there are alot of other problems the article needs to solve. DragonZero (talk) 23:53, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Wow, the chapter list got abandoned somewhere near the end; pretty sure the series is complete by now. I'd forgotten I was even watching this page... Doceirias (talk) 00:04, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Searching for Neuro does not find this page.

Neuro redirects to some sort of drink. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Neuro&redirect=no

I don't know much about the drink, but was wondering if it would be better to have a disambiguation page? hulu lists the show as just Neuro, and it seems like it would make this page easier to find for many people.

I apologize if this is a stupid suggestion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.5.181.220 (talk) 00:46, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Coincidence?

The whole parts with Sai being Sicks' clone & a few other things revolving that part of the story sounds an awful lot like this movie called Ultraviolet, with Milla Jovovich, in which a kid named Six is the clone of the villain who is oppressing humanity. Neuro started in 2005 & Ultraviolet came out a year latter. & to top it of, the woman each boy is traveling with (Ai & Violet) both have purple hair. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.160.123.254 (talk) 12:23, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Review(s)

• Mania.com anime streaming: Ep 01

--KrebMarkt (talk) 17:59, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

• Manga-Sanctuary (in French)
• Manga-News (in French)
• Animepro (in German)

--Gabriel Yuji (talk) 05:30, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Majin Tantei Nōgami Neuro/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: DragonZero (talk · contribs) 09:33, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Issues must be resolved for a pass. Suggestions are suggestions

Issues

• "The series tells the story of Neuro Nōgami, a mysteries eater demon who solved all demon world mysteries and came to the human world." This part has grammar issue and is difficult for the general reader to understand.
  • Lead still has grammar issues for plot. I suggest "The series follows Neuro Nōgami, a demon who depends on mysteries for sustenance. Having consumed all the mysteries in the demon world, Neuro travels to the human world in search of more. There, Neuro recruits high school student Yako Katsuragi as a facade for a detective agency."
• "The manga, which consists of 202 chapters collected in 23 tankōbon (collected volumes), was originally serialized in the Shueisha's shōnen manga magazine Weekly Shōnen Jump from February 2005 to April 2009." Consider presenting the information in order for general readers who know nothing about manga to understand it was serialized first then collected
• "In 2011, the anime series was licensed by Viz Media and uploaded to the company's website" Link Viz Media
• "Its critical reception often compared it to Case Closed, noting supernatural themes as the only difference." Grammar.
• "who release negative energy from their planned crimes" Accessibility. Does he eat mysteries or negative energy? Consider removing this part.
• "criminal Shinobu Godai and a sentient braid of hair called Akane, they" I don't think the "they" at the end is needed.
• Ref 3, do not link to an unreliable source for a translation. Consider using the approach of refing the first sentence and last sentence to encapsulate sections which use the same source. Right now I'm assuming ref 3 is covering everything in the second paragraph of production.
• "read or draw. he " Capitalize.
• "Volumes 11 and 12 included the two one-shots that preceded its serialization." Clarify if this is from the normal volumes or Bunkoban.
  • "Bunkoban edition's volumes 11 and 12 included the two one-shots that preceded its serialization." -> Suggest "The Bunkoban edition of volume 11 and 12 included the two one-shots that preceded the series' serialization."
• " on its websites VizAnime and Hulu" Viz Media owns both VizAnime and Hulu?
• Ref 25 is linked to the wrong character.
• Two total sale dates and numbers are not needed. "until April 2009" What does this mean.
• "Manga News said that this is what differentiates it" Is this related to the previous statement?
  • "this is impassivity is what" Grammar
• "a little insurance but the mangaka dares highly innovative plans" What?
  • "The reviewer commented its art has "highly innovative plans" Is highly innovative plans a reception?
    • Still needs to be fixed. Currently, its written to imply the art is scheming or planning something innovative.
      • "Visuellement, les dessins manquent un peu d’assurance mais le mangaka ose des plans très innovants." Is this really praising the art? For the second part, I don't think you can take the literal meaning, which is why "highly innovative plans" doesn't make sense.
• "adding the interesting aspects are others" Seems like an incomplete idea
  • "However, Manga News said that this impassivity is what differentiates it to Case Closed, adding the interesting aspects are others. These aspects are its design, setting, the "interesting and well-constructed characters", and the development of the relationship between Neuro and Yako which were praised by the reviewer, who said the series is "completely apart in the world of manga, Neuro is a genre unto itself which is between several styles and therefore appeal to a wider audience.""First sentence says it differentiates it from Case Closed, but doesn't seem to be neither positive or negative reception. "adding the interesting aspects are others" still doesn't add anything to that sentence. I think you need to rework the second sentence. Are the differences between Case Closed a praise? DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 05:16, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
    • Manga Sanctuary said it's "unfortunate", and I put a "however" before the Manga News statament. So, if Manga Sanctuary is a critic, Manga News is a praise. I just rewrote a bit both sentence, and you can judge it. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 14:38, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
• Reference 8 and 9 are the same link. Unless they are numbered volumes, you might need to list all 5 books.
• Remove the dead external link.

Suggestions

• It seems as if it was licensed in English. Akin to Crunchyroll licensed titles, consider moving it to the English title.
• "who wants to solve the mystery of her father's murder, which was declared a suicide by the police." IIRC, this was concluded very quickly and is no longer her main motive.
  • What's her reason now?
• "As they solve more cases, Yako becomes a popular detective in Japan, increasing attention from criminals." This doesn't seem to add onto the plot
• Consider using something like Jp. or Japanese for nihongofoot.
• MoS, remove the zeros before a number. Ex, 01 from ref 17
• MoS, Fix all Caps such as ref 25.
• From my experience, all audio releases (unless they were bundled to something) can be found on Oricon. Replace amazon with those.
• Hidden text in video games section. "A special edition of that game contained a CD featuring"
• "not been among the most-watched" Roundabout. "... said he show is of low priority due to its lack of popularity" or something like that.
• Anime News Network's Carlo Santos said that the series walks "the line between serious sleuth drama and supernatural spell-fest", and can also occasionally make jokes, but he said the graphic violence is the best part of the series. The first two ideas are related and can stay in the same sentence. The third idea would be better as a separate sentence. Also, the first idea is quoted while the second idea is paraphrased. It would be better if they matched each other.
• One day, the character list should be merged here.

Hey, DragonZero, thank you for your review! Can you check if did everything that is necessary to pass it as a GA? Gabriel Yuji (talk) 06:03, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

There are still grammar issues. Tell me when you've done a rewrite and I'll check on this again. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 06:49, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

I did some corretions. Is it ok now, DragonZero? Gabriel Yuji (talk) 01:17, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

I don't see much issues left. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 02:43, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

I fixed other issues, DragonZero. About your suggestions, I renamed it; I didn't removed the zero because it's written on this way in the source; I removed all caps; I have no audio releases sourced by Amazon; I'll try to answer your question about her reason and to merge the characters soon. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 04:07, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

You don't have to do the suggestions to pass GA (those are beyond the scope), only the issues. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 05:41, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

DragonZero, I've removed the issue by removing the sentence; and I've completed the idea in the subsequent sentence. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 20:27, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Passing. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 23:23, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Characters

Hi, I invite Sage of the Six Paths and anyone else who might be interested to discuss here the existence or not of a separate list of characters. I created the list in a split from the main page in February 2013. However, I've noticed that the list was unnecessary and redirected it in August 2014 ([1]). It remained this way until December 2015 when Sage reverted it ([2]); but he was quick reverted by CatcherStorm minutes later ([3]). Sage tried again ([4]) and I only noticed it now in January. As I've reverted twice ([5], [6]) and I don't hope to creat a edit warring, I'm here. I know that many other pages do have separate lists but equally several other pages don't have — and let's keep in mind that WP:OSE is not a valid argument. Let's discuss this as specific case.

My main point for not having a characters list is that there only few recurrent and relevant characters, namely Neuro, Yako, Sasazuka and maybe Godai, Akane and Sai. The other are only arc-only characters (Harukawa and HAL, Higuchi, Hayasakas, Sicks) or minor roles (Ishigaki, Aya, Ai, Sixson, Usui, Todoroki). I have sure its possible to discuss the essential information about the characters while discussing the story. If necessary we can expand the main page's plot to cover each arc with a paragraph that would be enough to discuss the importance of the characters in the context of it. I believe that if a character has no impact in the plot at all, it's not even worth discussing them. It's a mostly episodic series so there's no reason to discuss each character that appear in the work. What I'm proposing is similar to Akagi (manga) but we can have something like No Game No Life if it's necessary. Lastly, remember that "Being articles, stand-alone lists are subject to Wikipedia's content policies" i.e. has not follow WP:IN-U, to have third-party sources, to be notable, etc. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 02:46, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

So, again Sage of the Six Paths is acting without discussing ([7]). Lamentable. At least, you could apply some of my suggestions and try to reduce it. For example, by removing very very minor characters or grouping the Sicks like this or this. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 17:20, 3 April 2016 (UTC)