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I think that the red-head imposter was seen one last time in Secret Origins#44. In fact... http://obscure.dcuguide.com/Board/BatmanChars1.htm has a write-up on the Hatters.

Pedophilic overtones?

Just curious if anyone could elaborate or explain the details of these "implications" in the article itself. --AWF

Along the same line...I don't remember the exact dialogue, but the Hatter's conversation with Batman in Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth gives a pretty strong indication that he's a pedophile. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 12:42, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can we see a quote or something that gives us some indication of this instead of relying on peoples' judgement? If it's an interpretation directly from the source, it may be WP:OR. It might be better to have another source than the material itself if anything at all is left to interpretation. --DanielCD (talk) 23:45, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Imposter

This article implies that the imposter was known to be one throughout the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s but I thought the whole thread was invented in the 1980s to allow the Hatter to be restored to his original form. Should the article really be implying that the TV series version is a hybrid when he was actually a fair portrayal of the comic character at the time? Timrollpickering 09:13, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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It is confusing, but apparently, in that 1949 story, that Mad Hatter was never called Jervis Tetch. It was only in the 1980's that the Earth-1 version of this Hatter shows up and claims to have the real name of Jervis Tetch.

Aside from that, there is a page on the Hatter.

http://www.lairofmadness.com/home.html

http://members.surfbest.net/argentium@surfbest.net/batman2.htm

The imposter was seen in passing in Secret Origins#44.

The article says the imposter "unlike the original, was sane and also sported a gaudy mustache. He was primarily a thief, apparently obsessed with completing his private collection of hats from all nations, cultures, and historical periods".

He doesn't sound very sane... Daibhid C 14:53, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

By the standards of Bat villains in the 1950s-1970s comics it does sound saner than some. The actual gimmicks and themes tended to be overlooked as a sign of insanity and I guess that his behaviour was not as outrageous as the likes of the Joker. Timrollpickering (talk) 01:55, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Might it not be good to step "out of universe" and explain in the article that the 1956-originated "impostor" was, at that time, merely a redesign, or re-invention, of the same character, and that it was not until the 1980s that there was an idea that there had been two different people? 70.17.165.110 (talk) 09:35, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Secret Origins#44 came out after those Tec issues

SO#44 came out after those Tec issues and had the imposter in it.

Spellbinder

I've done some research on the supposed link between Mad Hatter and the Batman Beyond character Spellbinder that someone added to this entry. The only source I found that could seems to have influenced this addition was a blurb in Spellbinder's bio [1] at the World's Finest website, which stated "An interesting fact is that he's a descendant of the original Batman villain The Mad Hatter, Although they're not direct descendants. Spellbinder continues to oppose Batman."

I then started a topic on the Toonzone forums [2] asking about the official source of this information. One of the site's administrator's replied, "Either it came from the BB comic book which somehow snuck its way into a lot of the bios, or...I honestly can't tell you. That bios so old and was written probably over five years ago.

It was never confirmed on the show, I can tell you that much though."

Therefore, until an official source can be provided for this alleged Batman Beyond connection that was merely copied and pasted in the first place, I am removing it from the entry. --GORE-ILLA 06:55, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

More Confusion

Why does the enty start out with his biography from Batman: The Animated Series? The original comic book history should come first, and any necessary info on the animated version is under "In Other Media". Plus his "Batman: The Animated Series" bio also mentions events exclusive to the comic book version.

Not only is he often known to quote and associate with Carroll's Wonderland novels, but he often fails to discern between these stories and reality.

In his defense, the Oz-Wonderland Wars series had Captain Carrott and the Inferior Five travelling to Wonderland, which does exist diagetically as another universe.

The red-haired Hatter did appear in Secret Origins#44 subsequent to 'Tec#573 17:29, 11 January 2007 (UTC)~Enda80

Name pun?

Is his name a pun on nervous twitch? Has any commentary touched on this? Oc t ane ^{[improve me]} 10.03.08 0752 (UTC)

Notability question

The character has a six paragraph entry in Fleischer's Encyclopedia of Comic Book Heroes, Volume 1:Batman. Would it be reasonable to say that might be sufficient to verify notability? John Carter (talk) 14:38, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say it's a start. But to be honest, I'd like to see more real world context and citing. - J Greb (talk) 22:12, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

External Links

I was wondering what people thought of the inclusion of the fictional pedophiles link that keeps cropping up here. It seems as though it was hinted at once in an elsewheres book, but that it is not a major part of the mainstream aspect of the character. In addition, it seems a bit too much of a stretch to inlclude this link. It doesn't really seem to benifit the article, and from a moral perspective I mean...come on, kids read wikipedia, do we really need a link to pedophile stuff on a page that kids read? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rocdahut (talk • contribs) 06:01, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First off, the kids aspect doesn't actually -matter-, Wikipedia is not for kids. Never has been. Having said that, I've never seen anything to indicate that Mad Hatter is a pedophile. A crazy amoral murderer (which we note, see bit about Wikipedia not being for kids) but not a pedo. Lots42 (talk) 07:24, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I like to think that Wikipedia is for every one, and yes, the Pedophile part isn't a major part of the character, but it is part of the character nevertheless, so I think it should stay. Siamesehare (talk) 04:08, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Dr. who?!?

The name of the Arkham Asylum doctor is spelled three different ways in a single section (Fictional Character History / Mental Illness): Blaylock, Blacklock, Blackloch. I have no idea which is correct. Anybody? --63.25.106.149 (talk) 15:55, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Although I missed this talk page comment initially, an edit today made clear there was a problem. can anyone find the source material and correct? it looks like that edit was made in the end of September, and if no one can clean it up and review the edits in detail, I'll revert to that earlier version of the character history in a few days. ThuranX (talk) 00:49, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

C-Class rated for Comics Project

As this B-Class article has yet to receive a review, it has been rated as C-Class. If you disagree and would like to request an assesment, please visit Wikipedia:WikiProject_Comics/Assessment#Requesting_an_assessment and list the article. Hiding T 15:05, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reassessed as a C-Class, as article has no lead and there are sections with no inline citations at all. Hiding T 14:20, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"A direct reference to Alex DeLarge from the film version of A Clockwork Orange"

It says "The Mad Hatter is a boss in the video game The Adventures of Batman & Robin for the Sega Genesis. In the game, he is the master of a virtual reality world filled with mechanical rabbit and psychedelic imagery. His appearance, while based on that of the character from Batman: The Animated Series, also sports elongated eyelashes on his left eye, a direct reference to Alex DeLarge from the film version of A Clockwork Orange". Can anybody reference this? Siamesehare (talk) 03:11, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reference it how? With a photo of Malcolm Macdowell from the film "A Clockwork Orange" ? Not being snarky , just curious as to what sort of reference. Frankly , I read the current description , and came HERE to question if it was a reference to A.C.O. … so , more than one reader recognizes the reference. Perhaps it should read, "In an apparent homage to "A Clockwork Orange" , Tetch sports elongated eyelashes on his left eye." ? Again , no snark , just offering ideas. 75.104.174.89 (talk) 17:59, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Batman: Victorious

Being a big Batman fan, I did some research on a canceled Batman film called Batman: Victorious (or something like that), and it said that the Mad Hatter was going to be the supporting villain. I would add this, but I'm not quite sure if this information is correct or not. Siamesehare (talk) 07:41, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lede citation needed

on Google, ""The mind is the weakest part of a person" -"believing that"" (the second quote to remove references to this article) reveals no sources other than fanfiction. If the article is going to put something in quotes, it should be cited. It is entirely possible that the quote did come from an issue of the comic, but we should find and mention which one it was. For now, I'm adding a Citation-needed tag.-Verdatum (talk) 07:48, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 12 March 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa (talk) 18:28, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mad Hatter (character) → Mad Hatter (DC Comics) – Despite the disambiguator, the current title is rather ambiguous, as it could just as likely be referring to the Alice's Adventures in Wonderland character also commonly referred to by this name. I also think the current title should be redirected to either the Alice character or Mad Hatter (disambiguation). ｖａｐｏｒｇａｚｅ💬 15:13, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. I agree that we should point the "character" link to Hatter (Alice's Adventures in Wonderland). BD2412 T 18:00, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support, and Hatter (Alice's Adventures in Wonderland) it is. Randy Kryn (talk) 18:40, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above. -- Netoholic @ 21:38, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support, shocking state of affairs. Axem Titanium (talk) 21:55, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support Per WP:ASTONISH._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 10:59, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support per nom and WP:ASTONISH. Paintspot Infez (talk) 23:42, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support and redirect. In no way the primary topic for a character called the Mad Hatter. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:21, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:23, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.