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Redirect to the article Slavic-speakers in Ottoman Macedonia

The first meaning of this designation encompassed all ethnic groups in the area and is not covered by the article above. Because of that in such case it is better this stub continue to exist as a separate article to help the readers orient themselves about the different meanings of this term at that time. The other thing that comes to my mind is to make a separate disambiguation page on the case, as for example the Macedo-Romanians, but it seems too complicated to me. How about this idea? Jingiby (talk) 05:12, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like only one source suggests (partially at that) that this term also applied to non-Slavs. The other sources seem to apply it only to Slavs. Thus, this information can very easily go into Slavic speakers in Ottoman Macedonia or Macedonians (ethnic group), if not already included. --Local hero ^talk 16:10, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. --Jingiby (talk) 11:27, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I must say this is one of the best arguments you've ever made, it saved me a lot of time. Now I can redirect this back to where it belongs without undue hassle, thanks. --Local hero ^talk 03:37, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry but I am not in condition to write here these days. 3 from 5 sourses provided here support the view that Macedonians in the early 20 th century was an umbrella term. Do not delete soursed content only because you dislike it. Thanks.--Jingiby (talk) 04:38, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You have ample time to revert, just not to discuss apparently. Consider the following sentence from one of the sources from which you actually provided a quote: Anyone who lived within its confines, regardless of nationality could be called a Macedonian. This is still true today, thus not "obsolete terminology". A sentence about this simple assertion could be added to Macedonia (terminology) and eliminate the need for this separate article. --Local hero ^talk 05:39, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The sentence is written in the past tense and the context makes it clear that it is about the 19th century.Jingiby (talk) 05:15, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I recall that in one of his books Simeon Radev wrote about Turkish immigrants from Macedonia to Turkey as referring to themselves as Macedonians. Apcbg (talk) 07:00, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

On obsolescence

Why the parenthesis (obsolete terminology)? Who is to say that the term "Macedonian", among its other uses is not and cannot be used today to also mean anyone from the region who defines as such? I say this as someone from the region. 2A0C:5A80:1507:D300:28D6:F185:E084:1F58 (talk) 01:18, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]