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This article is more about the network than the Tram type. 09:40, 17 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noofnoof (talk • contribs)

Theirs already a page for the Tram family, Flexity Swift. Since these have only been in service 3 months im sure the article will grow as they pickup their own history. WatcherZero (talk) 20:32, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Fleet section

Much of this section is unreferenced. Only valid cite is the entry into service of 3100 (#18). #20 appears to be WP:OR, being it would seem, observations of an employee. The British Trams Online (#19) provides the delivery date detail for those interested. The rest of it is uncited. Est8286 (talk) 06:35, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

So wouldn't it be better to reference it then delete it? Or just stick a {{refimprove}} tag on it. G-13114 (talk) 16:18, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Much of it is operational detail trivia, types of signaling devices etc. The roll-out of the trams and the context in which they were ordered is already covered in the article. We could have a table with the delivery date of each tram as provided by the British Trams Online cite, but at 120 probably a bit of an overkill when it is readily available at that cite. Est8286 (talk) 18:58, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That would be better than no table at all surely? Tables can be made collapsible if they are long. G-13114 (talk) 19:11, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Lots of link, there are only three. Issue still remains that much of it remains uncited. Phil Steels cite appears to be WP:OR being the sightings of an employee. Est8286 (talk) 18:50, 14 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Given that it has been a month since the uncited text was reinstated, I have rewritten to reflect what can be attributed. Please don't reinstate without addressing. Est8286 (talk) 21:46, 10 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the unsourced portion of the table. Feel free to readd when a source is available. Please see Wikipedia:Verifiability, not truth for additional guidance. TimothyJosephWood 18:24, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The British Trams Online cite used for this section is a fansite as advised by an editor who to date has had no involvement (AFAIK) with the subject matter, see Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions#Cite validity. It is maintained by an individual, and thus does not meet the strict criteria to be considered a valid cite. Therefore an alternative cite needs to be located. All of the text, apart from the crystal balling, has remained with the appropriate hatnotes to improve. I am within my rights to ask for a valid cite, but quite happy to leave open for a reasonable period of time for it to be addressed, but there comes a time. Obviously it can be reinstated down the track should a cite come to light. I have removed the fansite cites again, please do not reinstate without gaining an opinion that it is valid or finding a policy that allows its inclusion. Est8286 (talk) 21:18, 8 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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