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Swedish
[edit]says he was a Swede, surely no? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.208.237.104 (talk) 11:53, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
Proposed merger
[edit]It has been proposed (by User:Fatepur) that Lokman be merged here, since they are one and the same person.
- Support per nom rationale, and I think we should also merge Luqman (sura) and Luqman (person) into Luqman (moving the dab page to Luqman (disambiguation)). Wilhelm_meis (talk) 04:01, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Requested move
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was Move Parsecboy (talk) 11:01, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Move to Luqman, as Lokman and Luqman (sura) have been merged in, and this is the primary topic of "Luqman". Wilhelm_meis (talk) 01:18, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
- Support as nom, Primary topic, merge done, no more need to disambiguate. Wilhelm_meis (talk) 01:18, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Unsupported Claims
[edit]Many unsupported claims here which I have never heard though I am very familiar with the history of Luqman. I am trying to tidy up the article. Please cite anything you reinsert. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.243.199 (talk) 21:59, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Issues
[edit]This article currently has referencing, tone and POV issues, but I think it has a lot of potential. The main problem I see is that much of the article's content was taken from the Qur'an, and it reads like an annotated text. This is an encyclopedia, not the Qur'an. Per WP:SOAP #1, WP content should not advocate a religious position, and per WP:NOTGUIDE #4, WP content should inform rather than instruct, and content of the Qur'an is more appropriate to the Wikisource project. I hope editors more familiar with the subject matter than myself will help improve this article's quality and perspective. I would really like to see more Qur'an related articles improved to a better quality on WP. Wilhelm_meis (talk) 01:40, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Descendants of Luqman
[edit]Probably worth pointing out that the descendants Lukman Hakim were Bashkir Kipchaks
Witness the result:
В шежере башкирских кыпсаков передается (с некоторыми нюансами) та же легенда: «…Кыпсак из рода Лукман Хакима; его отец был военачальником в орде Огуз-хана; после того как его войско было побеждено, а он сам [отец Кыпсака] умер, Кыпсака, родившегося на дорогах войны, Огуз-хан взял на своё попечение» (БШ, стр. 95)"
— Происхождение башкирского народа" Кузеев, 1974г
origin= Происхождение башкирского народа" Кузеев, 1974г
In the genealogy of the Bashkir kypsakov passed (with some nuances) the same legend: "... 'Kypsak kind of Lukman Hakim' his father was a captain in the horde of Oguz Khan, after his army was defeated, and he [Kypsaka father] died Kypsaka born on the roads of war, Oguz Khan took over his care "(SB, page 95)"
— Происхождение башкирского народа" Кузеев, 1974г
Bikkulov (talk) 16:55, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
Variation
[edit]In a variation of the story of Luqman becoming a wise man, he was offered either wisdom, or prophecy, and then he chose wisdom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lonelytj (talk • contribs) 09:00, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
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