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A fact from Love (Milov sculpture) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 May 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Love, a sculpture by Ukrainian artist Alexander Milov, represents two wire-frame adults who appear to be alienated, but inside their bodies two children reach out to each other?

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The result was: promoted by Z1720 (talk) 02:39, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the Love sculpture (pictured) by Ukrainian artist Alexander Milov represents two wire-frame adults who appear to be alienated, but inside their bodies two children reach out to each other? Source: Source
- ALT1: ... that the Love sculpture (pictured) which was featured at the 2015 Burning Man festival began as a small tape and wire sculpture? Source: 2007...The composition was made of tape and wire in the size of 75 x 45 x 175 cm. Subsequently, the series was presented at the Kiev Museum contemporary art in the framework of the exhibition "JUST AS IT IS", but went unnoticed.
- ALT2: ... that the Love sculpture (pictured) was the first Ukrainian artwork to receive a Burning Man festival grant in 30 years? Source: Source, Source
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Church of All Saints, Houghton Regis
- Comment: I struggled with the hooks, because I wanted to make note of the fact that the artist is Ukrainian. Open to other hooks of course.

Created by Bruxton (talk). Self-nominated at 22:31, 19 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Comment, not intending to review. I am no expert in copyrights, but my broad understanding is that sculptures are independently copyrighted, and photographs cannot have a more permissive license than the underlying art. Some relevant exceptions are listed here, but I can't make sense of whether they apply. Urve (talk) 05:11, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

'Comment' No doubt image is interesting one. As suggested in above comment first get image reviewed for Copy right. Then go for article review. Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 10:46, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Bookku and Urve: Thanks for the advice. Can someone help me with how to get an image reviewed? I am not the uploader of the photo. Also, I think a reviewer can review the article and choose to run it without a photo. Bruxton (talk) 19:08, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, the image does not appear to be free. There's more information about this at Commons:COM:FOP US, but the short version is that while images of buildings can generally be freely licensed, images of sculptures generally can't. It really is a shame – that's a gorgeous picture! I've nominated it for deletion on Commons, so we'll find out soon enough if I'm right or wrong. Also, I've italicized Love in the hooks. ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 03:26, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Bookku, Ezlev, and Urve: Hi all. I did not upload the photo to commons, but found it there - and it has been there 5 years now. It could have been an artist upload as it is crystal clear and there are no festival goers near. But I am going to remove it from this nomination so that a review may proceed. A photo deletion process will likely take a while. I will also delete it from the article. Bruxton (talk) 03:31, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

IMHO the image is sort of central to this DYK and I hope we will afford to wait for couple of days for it's availability if possible. Meanwhile I will do some legwork for reviewing some rest of aspects as you suggested. Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 13:31, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

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Cited:
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IMHO Actually this is a must have DYK, but the image is sort of central to this DYK and if we afford to wait for couple of days for it's availability if possible. User seems active in review but I need help of some one else in count and confirming qpq requirements. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bookku (talk • contribs) 13:51, May 1, 2022 (UTC)