Talk:Emergency override system

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On 10 December 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Local Access Alert to Emergency override system. The result of the discussion was moved.

Teach

This article should have a history section because the only sections are functionality and notable recordings. Also, who the heck deleted all of the references that I had to revert. STOP GETTING RID OF THE NOTABLE CRUD AND THE REFERENCES SINCE THAT IS VANDILISM — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clockworkv (talk • contribs) 12:50, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There is nothing notable about this, it's nothing more than an indisciminate list of a routine occurrence. The links are directly to the videos themselves, not to any reliable source that says what is notable about them. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 13:28, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sense there is a Lack of Sources, he has to rely on non-reliable sources. If we don't allow non-reliable sources, we can't create reliable sources. So just let him add stuff. 2601:644:9180:2310:BDD8:6A83:1B6B:301 (talk) 20:08, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You are right 2601:644:9180:2310:F0F9:8DB6:B066:E794 (talk) 20:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I just added a history section yesterday. Do not vandalize the history section but you may edit it, 2601:644:9180:2310:F0F9:8DB6:B066:E794 (talk) 00:02, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Adding references

Help add more citations and references! This is topic is a important part of history. First reference: [1]. Add more links to References. 2601:644:9180:2310:F0F9:8DB6:B066:E794 (talk) 20:12, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

oh btw I will add a history section soon. 2601:644:9180:2310:F0F9:8DB6:B066:E794 (talk) 21:16, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fixing the article

Talk subject to remove problems on the article. All problems WILL be discussed here. 2601:644:9180:2310:BDD8:6A83:1B6B:301 (talk) 20:02, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think easily the biggest problem with this article is that it seems to mostly rely on original research, personal observations and anecdotes from others as opposed to citeable and reliable sources, which is what Wikipedia wants per WP:ORIGINAL. While I do understand that there is a very frustrating lack of sources discussing this system based on my search attempts, basing the article's information almost entirely on what others may have heard or observed can result in unintentionally disseminating false information about the system if said anecdotes are revealed to be false. Additionally, based on my research on sites like Google Books, "Local Access Alert" does appear to be an official term for these warning systems, as that term returns no results on Google Books and I've seen terms like "cable override" and "emergency override system" be far more frequently used on archived documents there. I'll see about looking into getting the article renamed later on and try to figure out how to rewrite it to back up the text wherever possible. TinglesFrickinMap (talk) 19:31, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I did alot of the research (that is original). Yeah we can try google books or something like that. Also this is the person who added the history section btw 2601:644:9180:2310:D987:D847:BEF5:BAE3 (talk) 01:35, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

. 2601:644:9180:2310:80E2:49E0:55EB:4B3 (talk) 18:14, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 10 December 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. No opposition to the move has been shown. (non-admin closure) Wikiexplorationandhelping (talk) 18:32, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Local Access Alert → Emergency override system – Reviewing newspaper articles and other documents discussing these particular systems ([2], [3], [4]), Local Access Alert does not appear to have been an official name used for them, with "emergency override system" or "cable override" appearing to be the preferred terms. While I do need to find a reliable source for this claim, according to this YouTube comment, the Local Access Alert term is apparently only used by some Emergency Alert System encoders, and usage of these override systems predates the EAS. I am personally fine with the page being moved to either term. TinglesFrickinMap (talk) 15:40, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't this be sentence case per WP:LOWERCASE? —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:05, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. TinglesFrickinMap (talk) 01:06, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have a lot to say on the actual name to be used. The links are a bit dickie to read and the nom acknowledges the limitations of evidence. Perhaps we should have such evidence before us upon starting the RM? I am neutral on which name to adopt. However, all of these similar terms are descriptive names and not "proper names" that should be capitalised. They may be capitalised in prose to distinguish the term but per MOS:SIGNIFCAPS we don't do that here. Cinderella157 (talk) 00:15, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.