Talk:Uncrewed spaceflights to the International Space Station

Progress M1-4

Progress M1-4 docked twice, spending most of December 2001 in free flight. The time docked field does not appear to take the undocked period into account. --GW… 08:23, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

It should be Dec.2000, right? Alinor (talk) 12:12, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Cygnus missing

The (highly speculative) future mission list includes Dragon flights but not Cygnus flights under the CRS agreement. Themanwithoutapast (talk) 10:30, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

An editor added in the future missions list without discussion. Since it is so highly speculative like you mentioned and for the most part definitive launch dates or even months do not exist yet, I propose that the entire future list be removed. -MBK₀₀₄ 21:03, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

The added list is a compilation of the already present info in the articles for Progress-M, ATV, Dragon and the dates are according to these articles and to the NASA Launch manifest, ESA Launch manifest and SpaceX Launch manifest for the Dragon. Up to Dec2011 the Progress flights are taken from the NASA/ESA manifests. The flights after 2011 are taken from SpaceX manifest for Dragon/COTS. No speculations here. I agree somewhat that the additional COTS/HTV/ATV flights not mentioned in these manifests have a larger degree of uncertainess - the number of HTV/ATV flights is taken from their articles (I think it is referenced there), the frequency of ATV/HTV flights is also taken from there - thus giving us the year of the flight (as you see there is no month - as not to speculate). The Dragon flights are similary taken from the SpaceX manifest (that has also no months). I don't have link to Cygnus Launch manifest/future flights dates - that's why it is missing.

So, is there any problem with providing this information in one consistent table here, clearly marked as "future flights"? Alinor (talk) 13:24, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

If they are not directly referenced here, they should be removed. Also, edit warring to get your way by adding the table back in without discussion on the talk page after it was removed is purely disruptive. This table was for the longest time just the completed flights and those in progress. To change this requires consensus. -MBK₀₀₄ 20:29, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't agree that arranging usefull, referenced, information can be bad for the article. About the references: NASA ISS Consolidated Launch Manifest, ESA ISS Consolidated Launch Manifest, SpaceX Launch Manifest, Progress-M, Progress-M1, H-II Transfer Vehicle, Automated Transfer Vehicle. What more references are needed? If you think that there is a mistake in some particular future flight I propose that we put --citation needed-- templates for these 'problematic flights' and remove the general "unreferenced" tag for the section, because the bulk of it (up to 2011) is clearly referenced in the NASA/ESA manifests. As you can see I have not added Progress flights after 2011 - because I haven't found such announcements in the sources and articles cited here above. The same for Cygnus. Alinor (talk) 10:42, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

And while we are at it - please see here. Alinor (talk) 10:45, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Launch failures since October 2014

Isn't it rather peculiar that all the 3 rockets, to the International Space Station, that failed in some way or other since October 2014 were launched on the 28th of the particular month? To wit: October 28, April 28 and the latest on June 28? Just a coincidence but peculiar nonetheless. Is there a jinx like friday the 13th? (180.234.76.146 (talk) 09:54, 29 June 2015 (UTC)Bakhtiar) Abul Bakhtiar (talk) 08:51, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Progress-M29M ISS 61P

Would someone kindly create a new page for Progress-M29M ISS 61P which is scheduled to launch on 1 October 2015 according to the latest information available as of 20:00 UTC on 19 August 2015. Thanks. 180.234.90.89 (talk) 20:21, 19 August 2015 (UTC) Abul Bakhtiar (talk) 08:52, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

The above is no longer relevant as has already been done and mission completed. Should be considered to have been deleted. Abul Bakhtiar (talk) 05:09, 20 February 2016 (UTC) Abul Bakhtiar (talk) 08:52, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Cygnus CRS-OA 4

Would someone please help restore the hyperlink for this spaceflight at serial 88 of the list? ThanksAbul Bakhtiar|talk 04:00, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

This spacecraft was supposed to end its mission and be undocked for destructive reentry on 25 January but here it is 30 January and there's no news whether this event has occurred or been delayed. Can anyone clarify the matter and update the table please. Thanks.Abul Bakhtiar (talk) 07:35, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

A look at the Cygnus CRS OA-4 Wiki page today (6 Feb 2016) seems to show the spacecraft to have been docked to ISS for 62 days which would mean that it has not been deorbited yet for some reason even though it should have been on 25 January 2016. This may perhaps be due to the launch delay of SpaceX CRS-8.Abul Bakhtiar (talk) 09:15, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Current & completed spaceflights:

Wouldn't it save space if all the month names were reduced to three letters (Jan, Feb, Mar etc.) instead of putting the name of the month in full everywhere? The list already has more than 80 entries and it will keep growing in the months to come so it may be pertinent to shprten each entry. As it is someone seems to have inserted a new column showing the nationality and flag of each cargo flight. Thanks. Abul Bakhtiar (talk) 18:15, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Since the SpaceX Dragon spacecraft are returned to earth on completion of their missions to the ISS, instead of being deorbited like all the other cargo craft, I think the last column heading should highlight this fact and rather then being 'deorbit' it should be 'deorbit/landed'. As this is a proposed change to what has been in effect for quite a long time now, opinions for and against might be appropriate. Thanks. Abul Bakhtiar (talk) 09:55, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Future Flights:Cygnus CRS OA-5

According to Americaspace.com (retrieved 10 March 2016) this mission has been delayed till sometime at the end of June 2016. However, no date is mentioned. Depending on more reliable information would make it easier to amend the entry for OA-5 which is presently shown as being due for launch on 31 May 2015. Abul Bakhtiar (talk) 06:31, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Test Flights:

Until just a month or so ago this list consisted of logistics missions. It doesn't seem to me like the SpaceX DM-1 and the Boeing CST-100 Test flights have any place on this particular list as they are precursors to 'manned' spacecraft missions. They will be manned spacecraft being flown without any crew but that doesn't mean that they are 'unmanned' spacecraft in the strict sense used in this list. So, it would probably be pertinent to remove these two items from the 'future flights' section. Abul Bakhtiar (talk) 19:24, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Future spaceflights: ISS 68P

This Progress flight is shown as launching in September 2017 as well as in early 2018. Someone seems to have made an error in updating the manifest and should correct it so that there is only 1 date for Progress MS-7/ISS-68P. Abul Bakhtiar (talk) 10:09, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Rename SpaceX CRS-n missions to Dragon CRS-n

ISS editors may wish to comment on this global move discussion. — JFG ^talk 10:27, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

This makes sense as all the other spacecraft are named as per their designations and not the launch company. In that case Cygnus would probably be called e.g. Cygnus CRS-n rather than Cygnus Orbital/OA CRS-n. But then the designations presently in use are those used by the manufacturer or launcher/developer of the spacecraft. A discussion is required on this topic I think. Abul Bakhtiar (talk) 11:05, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

@Abul Bakhtiar: Thanks for your comment, but nobody will see it here. You are welcome to participate in the discussion there. — JFG ^talk 15:17, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Article title:

The earlier title was better than the current one and should not have been changed without a discussion among ISS editors. I feel that the name should be reverted in keeping with similar lists regarding spaceflight/spacecrafts. Abul Bakhtiar (talk) 11:10, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Feel free to launch a formal move request if you wish. — JFG ^talk 15:20, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Why spaceports?

The structure of article sections by spaceport looks strange. I suggest naming sections after each spacecraft type that is servicing or has serviced the ISS (Progress, ATV, Cygnus, etc.); spaceport information will come naturally within each spacecraft's section. Any comments? — JFG ^talk 17:02, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

I realize that this is a pretty old post, but considering that the list is getting longer and longer all the time it would definitely make sense to remove the section(s) on spaceports from this article. Or shift it to the bottom of the page. Abul Bakhtiar (talk) 10:26, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

You can move it, but it won't help readers much. I still believe we should replace that section with a presentation of each cargo vehicle type. — JFG ^talk 12:09, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I agree with you totally. This page is becoming too lengthy. And who had to add the graph at the top which is not updated regularly? Abul Bakhtiar (talk) 05:08, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Progress MS-04/ISS 65P:

As of 19:00 hrs UTC TASS has been reporting a loss of telemetry from the spacecraft that had been launched a few hours earlier. However, there is as yet no clear indication whether this means a failure of the mission or if efforts are being made to re-establish contact with the spacecraft. Abul Bakhtiar (talk) 19:10, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Progress deorbit dates:

For some reason, beginning with Progress MS-06 and continuing with Progress MS-07 recently, no data is available about the dates on which these spacecraft were deorbited and so, as a result the last column of the main table remains incomplete. I have tried various sources but no joy till date. Abul Bakhtiar (talk) 07:36, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Berthing and/or docking port

How about a column stating which port they used on ISS for each of these missions? Also the same information for what port is planned for the upcoming missions? There is currently no good source for that info on here. Jesse Schulman (talk) 13:22, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Main Table:

The main table has become too long and should be broken down into segments e.g. 2001-2010 or even smaller 2001-2005 and so on. it would be much easier to navigate and edit like the list of Falcon-9 launches. Abul Bakhtiar (talk) 19:35, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

The table lists ATV missions as "European Union", although they were "European Space Agency" missions. ESA and EU are not the same organization and differ in member states. I propose a change vom "EU" to "ESA" of the ATV entries.