Talk:List of current non-sovereign monarchs

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Deleted lists

The following entries were copied from the deleted List of current monarchs and List of subnational monarchs. It contains entries from Congo, Côte d'Ivoire, Ghana, and Nigeria. Please add them to the current list once they have been appropriately verified and sourced. There are also a large number of empty fields.

Entries archived

State	Polity	Monarch	Date	Type
DR Congo	Kuba	Nyim Kot a-Mbweeky a-Shyaang	September 1969	Another version listed the incumbent as "Nyimi Kok Mabiintsh III".
DR Congo	Lunda	Mwata Yamvo Mushid III	28 January 2005
Côte d'Ivoire	Abrons	King Kouassi Adjoumani		The King of Abrons Kingdom in Bondoukou.
	Abengourou	King Boa Kouassi III		The King of l’Indénié Kingdom in Abengourou.
	Allangoua	King Kouame Atta Etienne		The King of Allangoua Kingdom in Assahara (M’Batto).
	Bouna	King Aka Ahoré François		The King of Bouna Kingdom in Bouna (M’Batto).
	Dimbokro	King Pedrin III		The King of Dimbokro Kingdom in Dimbokro.
	Ebra	King Assemien Nogbou		The King of Ebra Kingdom in Ebra.
	Krindjabo	King Amon N’Douffou V		The King of Krindjabo Kingdom in Krindjabo.
	Mooussou	King Kanga Assoumou		The King of Mooussou Kingdom in Mooussou.
	N’zima	King Amon Tanoe		The King of N’zima Kingdom in Grand-Bassam.
	Tabou	King Douopo Yié		The King of Tabou Kingdom in Tabou.
Ghana	Akropong-Akuapem	King Oseadeefyo Addo Dankwa III		The King of Akropong holds for the last sixteen years the "sacred seat" of the Akuapem-Asona, one of the seven major Akan clans.
	Anloga	(Ewe) Torghui Subo II		King Subo II is of the Anloga Royal Kingdoms lines in Ghana, and a member of the Nubian Sheba Imperial Empire Kingdom Central Government Empire Cabinet.
	Ashanti	Asantehene Otumfuo Nana Osei Tutu II	23 July 1999	The succession is decided by a series of councils of local notables and other royal family members.
	Dagomba	Yaa Naa Kampakuya Naa Abdulai Yakubu Andani	21 April 2006	The Yaa Naa is selected by a group of Kingmakers led by the Kuga Naa who is the embodiment of the customs and traditions of the Dagbon people. The King is selected after consulting the oracles and soothsayers. The current occupier is the prince and elder son of the immediate past Yaa Naa, Yaa Naa Yakubu Andani II who died in 2002. He is the Regent of Dagbon and acts as Yaa Naa until a new Yaa Naa is selected. The Regent is also qualified to be selected.
	Ga	King Nii Tack Tawiah III
Nigeria	Adamawa	Lamido Alhahi Aliyu Musdafa	26 July 1953 ^[1]	Name also spelled "Aliyu Mustapha".
	Awka	Igwe Eze-Uzu II
	Edo	Oba Erediauwa	23 March 1979 ^[2]	Holds or is a claimant to the throne of the Benin Empire (versions conflicting); previously known as Salomon Igbinoghodua. Another former entry included: "Isienwenro James Iyoha Inneh, Ekegbian (a chief) of the Benin kingdom".
	Ife	Oni Okunade Sijuwade Olubuse II	7 August 1980
	Katsina	Emir Abdulmumini Kabir Usman	5 July 2008	Another version listed the name as "Mamadou Kabir Usman".
	Kano	Emir Ado Bayero	October 1963
	Lagos	Oba Rilwan Akiolu	30 August 2003
	Nri	Eze Nri Ènweleána II Obidiegwu Onyeso	1988
	Nnewi	Obi Kenneth Nnaji Onyemaeke Orizu III
	Onitsha	Obi Igwe Nnayelugo Alfred Nnaemeka Achebe	3 June, 2002^[3]
	Oyo	Oba Lamidi Olayiwola Adeyemi III	19 November 1970^[3]
	Sokoto	Sultan Muhammed Sa'adu Abubakar	2 November 2006

Resources

For helpful links for constructing further additions, see links at my user page, where you will also find half-completed Cameroon. Nightw 06:02, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Muhammad, Ibrahim. Nigeria: Day Adamawa Stood Still for Lamido from Vanguard
^ Ebegbulem, Simon. Nigeria: Oba Erediauwa's 30th Anniversary from Vanguard
^ ^a ^b Nigerian traditional poilities

Arcot

I think there is a subnational monarchy which is not yet included in this list. If I get it right, it's Arcot in India. To tell the truth I've read about the Prince of Arcot on the internet. The goverment of India recognises him as the highest noble man among muslims in Inda. This title is heradity, but since so far I couldn't determine the exact nature of it's status, I've decided not to include Arcot in this list, however if somebody has a greater view on this matter, I hope he'll set this right.

14:43, 24 October 2010 (CET) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.92.49.43 (talk)

You can find his name under pretenders. He retains the title, but not the crown. In other words, the monarchy has been abolished, and he's now a political pensioner. Nightw 12:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wallis and Futuna

Do its monarchs have some administrative powers or not? Previously these were listed as constitutional [1]. What about Negeri Sembilan and others without a "type" column? Alinor (talk) 12:44, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not legally. The law recognises customary authority, but the monarchies and the government are separate. The states in Negeri Sembilan are purely traditional also. Nightw 05:20, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"constituent monarch"?

Google "constituent monarch " -wikipedia returns a whopping 8 hits, none of which seem relevant. Is this "constituent monarch" meant to be "monarch who is constituent", "monarch of a constituent", or what? It is either an invented term or an unhelpful description. A better page title can be found. What was wrong with List of subnational monarchs? jnestorius^(talk) 22:19, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Because most of the Google hits under that name also come from Wikipedia. There isn't a blanket term for them all, and "subnational" is incorrect, since most of these monarchs reign over nations. Nightw 02:57, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Websites: Royal Ark and Genealogical Gleanings

See Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Self-published royalty websites for thread about these two websites which are used extensively in this article. Will Beback talk 00:49, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Since no-one else has done it and the issue was settled some months ago, I have just removed the Royal Ark citations & replaced with cite requests where appropriate. I am somewhat concerned that other web sources used on this article may in fact be mirroring various aspects of content that is/was presented on Royal Ark or indeed Genealogical Gleanings. This could become quite a weeding-out exercise. - Sitush (talk) 08:48, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll look into it. It's difficult to find RS-compliant sources for such obscure cases. Any problem with having the link in the further reading section? Nightw 09:05, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - this is not an area in which I have much prior knowledge. Regarding the link in further reading, I removed it on the basis that if Royal Ark has been deemed unsuitable for use in BLPs then by inference it would also fail (!) our "authoritative" test for that section and/or external links. I am not too bothered either way and was merely doing what appeared to be the logical thing. The site does appear to be operating again - it was u/s around 24 hours ago and it was that situation that caused me to delve into what was going on etc. - Sitush (talk) 09:14, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that seems fair. I think I'll try to email the author (Buyers) to find out where he's getting his information from. If the sources are accessible, I'll add them. If it's a case of private correspondance or something equally unverifiable, the entries will have to go. Nightw 09:20, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Split?

Split - Article is large, and should be split by area.--Jax 0677 (talk) 00:00, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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List of current constituent monarchs → List of current non-sovereign monarchs – For consistency with main article's name: Non-sovereign monarchy. Any thoughts? See also #"constituent monarch"? Olchug (talk) 10:59, 8 March 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 17:41, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] Muhammad, Ibrahim. Nigeria: Day Adamawa Stood Still for Lamido from Vanguard

[2] Ebegbulem, Simon. Nigeria: Oba Erediauwa's 30th Anniversary from Vanguard

[nigeria-3] Nigerian traditional poilities

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