Talk:List of minimum driving ages

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I’ve noticed that on the colour coded image of minimum driving ages all of Australia besides for the NT is pink for 17, however NSW should instead be pink/green for 17 with supervision from 16 (I’m not sure about other states). I may be wrong with understanding the code but I know for certain that in NSW teenagers can go for their learners permit at 16 and until they turn 17 and acquire 120hrs of driving time (20 nighttime 100 daytime) they need the supervision of someone with their full license (not including red or green P-plates). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdjoyce06 (talk • contribs) 03:15, 24 April 2023 (UTC) Bangla and English[reply]

Underage driving

Underage driving should redirect here. Currently it redirects to a US-specific tally page. Erkinalp9035 (talk) 11:01, 25 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Ajf773 (talk) 11:29, 25 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Russia

The information on Russia was wrong. The minimum driving age for cars is 18, for motorcycles - 16. Scooters with engines under 50 cc can officially be driven from 16 but in fact they don't fall under any category so kids from the age as little as 10 drive them. I've also removed the note. I don't know where that is coming from but it's WRONG and judging by the grammar errors in the document, it's definitely not official. Leo (talk) 13:02, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate the change you've made. The document does often miss the word 'are' or 'is'. It is not official in Russia but is in the UK and is one of either three websites you are supposed to check before driving abroad. The document also states that 17 is the age for visitors, I'm not sure whether that means that visitors with an IDP under 18 are permitted to drive or not. I would appreciate it if you could put a citation/reference to a reliable website, as this website is very reliable. --MJLRGS (talk) 12:48, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ignore the last comment, I've added a citation to support your change. --MJLRGS (talk) 12:56, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I can provide a link to the Russian traffic code but it's in Russian. I believe thid particular article should be VERY accurate. Visitor or not, you can only drive in Russia from 18 years of age. Doing otherwise may result in a large fine. Nomad (talk) 10:51, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

United States

The driving age for the United States is incorrectly listed as 16. In fact, there is no national age; it varies by state. For example, in my state (Montana), one can get a permit at 14 and a license at 15. Rowan7 (talk) 09:42, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Some geography suggestions

I was very surprised not to find the section called "Middle East" and instead to find all the Middle Eastern countries in the "West Asia" section. I think I'm not the only one confused. I've never heard this term before and countries like Bahrain, Israel, UAE, Saudi Arabia are considered Middle East. Any objections if I rearrange the list to reflect that? BadaBoom (talk) 05:05, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

These sub-sections are not really necessary. Continents should have sections but not parts of continents Ajf773 (talk) 11:12, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Austria

I think it's possible to get a liscense in Austria with 17 under special restrictions.--Cvb3 (talk) 18:34, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't a "List of countries by minimum driving age"

It's a List of minimum driving ages by country. What comes after the word "by", should be the order in which information is presented. See List of countries by population for an example of what I mean. In this case it's presented in order of countries.

(It's actually by country, within region, within continent, but I don't think all that needs to go in the title.)

Another option, of course, is to rewrite this article so that it is what it says it is. HiLo48 (talk) 03:12, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Useless list

This list is so inacurate it should be deleted completely. It doesn't take some VERY popular things into account. In many European countries teenagers can drive microcars as young as 16. And in Sweden (which is listed as 18-years-old driving age) even 15-year-old teens can drive what is called EPA-Traktors. There aren't even footnotes about all that. Useless list. Le Grand Bleu (talk) 19:36, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. That list is extremely misleading. Examples: Germany, normally minimum age is 18 ^[1]. Japan, 18 too ^[2]. In both cases the linked sources even already say so! So not even article and information in source match. Maybe I will change it in the article. 77.178.103.144 (talk) 19:19, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

Europe

Most of the stated minimal ages in Europe are wrong, they are actually 17/18 years in most of the countries. The sources supporting wrong information are all dead links.

I can't remove those links, I don't know why they are showing here.

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License vs permit

@Ajf773: From the article's lede: "The minimum driving age is the minimum age at which a person may obtain a driver's licence to lawfully drive a motor vehicle on public roads." This doesn't include learner's permit.Terrorist96 (talk) 22:18, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Terrorist96:. A learners permit IS a permit that lawfully allows driving on public roads, irrelevant of restrictions. The minimum age specified in the table is the minimum possible age to drive, supervised or unsupervised. Ajf773 (talk) 08:24, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Then change the lede from license to permit.Terrorist96 (talk) 13:40, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Missing middle Asia?

It seems that lots of countries mostly from middle Asia are missing in this list. Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan, Mongolia and North Korea from what I've noticed.

What is with that map?

The map on this wiki is… really really weird. Not sure where else to talk about this 2603:7000:8A00:1B9A:3840:F2BC:2424:E81D (talk) 18:37, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Australia

Most states it is 16 supervised, such as in New South Wales 5.186.125.227 (talk) 19:58, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Information about Turkmenistán

in Turkmenistán, it's 17 for males, 21 for tourists and 40 for Women, with the extras that the car should be at her name and she should be married. Maxi2008xdxd (talk) 01:10, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I know Turkmenistan has some insanely crazy laws, but everything still needs to be verified with a reliable source. Ajf773 (talk) 01:42, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/germany/safety-and-security

[2] ttp://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2022.html

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