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Splitting state-wide list

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As with other state-wide lists of RHPs, it is necessary to split out bigger counties, at least, to keep page filesize manageable. Someone reverted my splitting out El Paso County, at least on this end, perhaps assuming my split was unfriendly. However, it is I that have been the main person developing this list-article by putting in tables, it was not unfriendly to anyone that i know of who may be watching. Anyhow, please feel free to discuss here. doncram (talk) 16:48, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't think it was unfriendly, I didn't know there was a rationale to it. Thank you for the explanation. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:36, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Research issues and editing needed

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  • In Las Animas County, in Kim, besides Kim Schools is there also a White School NRHP-listed? White School appeared in the old list, is not a row in new table.
  • Are there other new listings, later than mid April 2008, for which rows have not yet been created? Probably... sanfranman59, if u r reading this, it would be great if you could paste in here your list of recent Colorado additions/changes for me to address. doncram (talk) 19:36, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • delistings. Small tables for delistings in each applicable county are needed. Info about each delisting is available at state Colorado Historical Society website. I put link into wp:NRHP state specific resources. doncram (talk) 19:36, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • A complete list of delistings can be found at this website, apparently the Colorado Historic Society site that Doncram means. Please note that this includes the state's register, too, so one must be careful with dates and with making sure that a site was National Register-listed, not just state-listed. Nyttend (talk) 14:45, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Photo overlap, Current listings by county

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You're still getting photo overlap, at least on Firefox. The left column of photos overlaps the table -- which is why I moved them to the right. Maybe there's another fix? Regards, Pete Tillman (talk) 06:06, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bump. Still a problem. Pete Tillman (talk) 04:39, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Photos of Trout Lake Water Tank for upload

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I haven't got a usr acct to upload imgs, but I was recently in Trout Lake and shot a few pics of the Water tank. So I put 3 shots of the tank and 1 pana of the Sheep Mt. ridge here if anybody wants to add them. (The exif data should still be attached if one needs to verify usage rights.)

First time posting on Wpedia, -sorry if i didn't follow protocol or broke any rules. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.251.234.27 (talk) 01:40, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

new map

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Have created a new Colorado map for your use, showing NRHPs by county. file:NRHP Colorado Map.svg 25or6to4 (talk) 21:30, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gunnison Art Center, Historic Building, photo, history, and not on the register.

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Presently engaged in historic one room schoolhouses, there is one in Gunnison, Gunnison County, Colorado, U.S.A., leasing the upper floor of the Gunnison Arts Center. Anyone care to discuss this? O=MC4 20:39, 9 June 2012 (UTC), User:Orschstaffer/Schoolhouse[reply]

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fix up Colorado NRIS-only ones

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User:CaroleHenson, anyone else, wanna work on cleaning up "NRIS-only" ones? Arguably the worst NRHP articles in the state. Current results of Petscan search for Colorado NRHPs with "NRIS-only" status:

These are sorted by fundamental article number, hence in effect by article creation date, ranging from Aug 2005 to Jan 2013. --Doncram (talk) 01:29, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
added detail making it harder to merge :) —Doncram (talk) 06:47, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
added NRHP doc and quote—-Doncram (talk) 06:47, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
--Doncram (talk) 23:34, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Rather than repeat myself, I answered here about the ones I'm interested in.–CaroleHenson (talk) 23:48, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) Discussing elsewhere, CH has noted interest in a number, some noted by me above.
The main thing on all of these is to add the great NRHP nomination/registration document, with photos, that is now available for almost all of these, which all were created as articles (and were NRHP-listed) by 2013. --Doncram (talk) 01:29, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I saw your comment, Doncram, about getting a picture for Glenisle. I think its about an hour drive from Denver, more with Denver metro traffic. I can send an email to the resort and see if they can load/release some photos onto commons. If it doesn't come through, we can add a picture request to the talk page... or perhaps someone sees this and is willing to go there - or lives near it - and can take some pictures.–CaroleHenson (talk) 03:38, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hey User:CaroleHenson, if you'll get a pic for that one, I'll make the trek to another out-of-the-way one, say, how about Coates Creek Schoolhouse, to match. Or what else do you have to offer? :) --Doncram (talk) 02:22, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Apparently 33 done; 52 remain per query link at top of this section. --Doncram (talk) 17:03, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Petscan link says 49 remain now. --Doncram (talk) 06:07, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
petscan reports 36 now. --Doncram (talk) 02:06, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, all done, at least in that all now have their NRHP document as a reference, if the NRHP document is available, and otherwise have some other inline sourcing. Some were developed a bit more, but many were just minimally improved. However even just a link to the NRHP document can make quite a lot of difference for a reader interested in a given site. Thanks User:CaroleHenson for your participation which helped this along. --Doncram (talk) 15:26, 22 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Santa Fe Trail Mountain Route-Bent's New Fort

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I am a little confused. This listing is under Bent County, Colorado, but Bent's New Fort is in Prowers County, Colorado. Is is under the right county? Or, should it also be under Prowers County?–CaroleHenson (talk) 05:01, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I see why Wikipedia NRHP editors put it into National Register of Historic Places listings in Bent County, Colorado: the NPS "Weekly listings" announcement of its listing gives:
COLORADO, BENT COUNTY,
Santa Fe Trail Mountain Route--Bent's New Fort,
Address Restricted,
Lamar vicinity, 16000666,
LISTED, 9/26/16
(Santa Fe Trail MPS)
And while the "vicinity" city is sometimes across a county line, in this case Lamar is in fact in Bent County. Oops, right it is Prowers, across the line, I see from Google maps search on "Bent County, Colorado" and "Prowers County, Colorado". --Doncram (talk) 17:33, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see where Prowers County is coming in to anything. What makes you think Bent's New Fort is in that county?
But perhaps the NRHP listing, which by its name probably includes a stretch of the Mountain Route trail, may in fact span across counties, without regular Wikipedia NRHP editors' knowledge, in which case an entry for it should be added to National Register of Historic Places listings in Prowers County, Colorado. And there needs to be careful discussion of the NRHP listing, as surely being larger than just the fort, but this is hard because we don't have the NRHP nomination document. --Doncram (talk) 15:19, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Bent's New Fort is in Lamar per this, but west of the center of town so it's possibly on / over the county border. The Lamar, Colorado article says "Lamar is a Home Rule Municipality that is the county seat and the most populous municipality of Prowers County, Colorado, United States.[8]". In addition, I tried to change the category for the New Fort image in commons to Bent County, and someone switched it back to Prowers.
The Lamar article doesn't say it's in two counties. Pretty confused.–CaroleHenson (talk) 15:30, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I was able to find out where the Prowers County border is, and it is in Bent's County. Thanks!–CaroleHenson (talk) 15:46, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

region groupings for Colorado

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I'd like to reorganize the breakout of Colorado counties into regional groupings, by any reasonable partition of the state. The small counties that are near to one another can be listed on a regional page, and then the corresponding "Map of all coordinates" will show all the listings in a coherent geographic area. I figure browsing will then be more satisfying for readers, for photographers, and for the relatively few editors actively developing NRHP articles in the state.

For example, perhaps the grouping of counties of the map of peace officer training regions and grants might work. That has 10 regions: Northwest, I-70 West, West Central, Southwest, San Luis Valley, Central Mountains, Greater Metro, Southeast, Northeast, North Central.

Or the 8-region Colorado Education map: Northwest, West Central, Southwest, Metro, Pikes Peak, Southeast, Northeast, North Central. --Doncram (talk) 23:12, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the delayed reply, Doncram! I cannot see the first map, but the 8-region map looks good. Could we use Denver Metro for Metro?–CaroleHenson (talk) 17:51, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, np, thanks for reply. Sure "Denver Metro" as label is better than "Metro". But, hmm, the 8-region map of school district regions doesn't line up completely with county borders, there are a bunch of school districts spanning county lines at the edges of many of the 8 regions. Could a slightly modified map, adjusted, work? But then we wouldn't be hanging our hat on someone else's partition, which would be much more easily explained. --Doncram (talk) 18:07, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Any partition has to divide up the state into chunks of NRHPs, none having too many NRHPs to cover. Denver alone has 297 NRHPs, on the large side but okay on its own. So the partition then has to divvy up the rest of the state.
There are 7 health care regions in Colorado Health Institute's partition for contracting health care, but the 7 parts aren't given names besides the health care contractor names, so would require us to coin names for the areas, if not use just region numbers 1 to 7. I dunno: "Denver", then making up names: "West", "Southeast", "Northeast", "Boulder etc", "Park-Teller-El Paso", "Arapahoe etc"? Probably those coinings don't work; for example "West" might have too many NRHPs. --Doncram (talk) 18:19, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There are 14 regions in economic development schema of "Choose Colorado", https://choosecolorado.com/, defined as groups of counties. Could split out Denver from the Denver region one, to make 15. Maybe some of the smaller regions (by number of NRHPs) could be combined. --Doncram (talk) 18:41, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
http://www.easteregghuntsandeasterevents.org/maps/COmap2.jpg is a simple division by 5: Northeast, Northwest, Southwest, Southeast, Denver Metro. Split out Denver from Denver Metro to make 6. I may try to see how many NRHPs in each of these "6 regions". --Doncram (talk) 19:21, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That divided 1544 into six: i think that makes 297 in Denver, 240 in other Denver metro, 190 in NE, 235 in NW, 312 in SW, 274 in SE ?, which is pretty even and would work, numbers-wise. Maybe that is simple and clear enough. --Doncram (talk) 19:55, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
County # of Sites "6 regions"
1 Adams 18 dm
2 Alamosa 15 SW
3 Arapahoe 23 dm
4 Archuleta 3 SW
5 Baca 4 SE
6 Bent 8 SE
7 Boulder 84 dm
8 Broomfield 0
9 Chaffee 43 SW
10 Cheyenne 2 SE
11 Clear Creek 25 NW
12 Conejos 13 SW
13 Costilla 12 SW
14 Crowley 1 SE
15 Custer 9 SW
16 Delta 16 SW
17.1 Denver: Downtown 144 D
17.2 Denver: Northeast 71 D
17.3 Denver: Southeast 43 D
17.4 Denver: West 45 D
17.5 Denver: Duplicates (6)[1] D
17.6 Denver: Total 297 D
18 Dolores 5 SW
19 Douglas 28 dm
20 Eagle 11 NW
21 El Paso 93 SE
22 Elbert 1 dm
23 Fremont 22 SW
24 Garfield 20 NW
25 Gilpin 7 NW
26 Grand 27 NW
27 Gunnison 22 SW
28 Hinsdale 12 SW
29 Huerfano 8 SE
30 Jackson 3 NW
31 Jefferson 86 dm
32 Kiowa 6 SE
33 Kit Carson 6 SE
34 La Plata 14 SW
35 Lake 9 NW
36 Larimer 102 NE
37 Las Animas 37 SE
38 Lincoln 3 SE
39 Logan 12 NE
40 Mesa 35 NW
41 Mineral 2 SW
42 Moffat 14 NW
43 Montezuma 36 SW
44 Montrose 26 SW
45 Morgan 16 NE
46 Otero 18 SE
47 Ouray 4 SW
48 Park 27 SW
49 Phillips 9 NE
50 Pitkin 36 NW
51 Prowers 15 SE
52 Pueblo 65 SE
53 Rio Blanco 13 NW
54 Rio Grande 13 SW
55 Routt 26 NW
56 Saguache 9 SW
57 San Juan 11 SW
58 San Miguel 6 SW
59 Sedgwick 2 NE
60 Summit 9 NW
61 Teller 10 SE
62 Washington 4 NE
63 Weld 40 NE
64 Yuma 5 NE
(duplicates) (14)[2]
Total: 1,544

References

  1. ^ 19th Street Bridge (Downtown Denver and West Denver), East Sixth Avenue Parkway (Northeast Denver and Southeast Denver), Monaco Street Parkway (Northeast Denver and Southeast Denver), South Platte River Bridges (Northeast Denver and West Denver), and Speer Boulevard (Downtown Denver, Northeast Denver, and Southeast Denver).
  2. ^ The following sites are listed in multiple counties: Alpine Tunnel Historic District (Chaffee and Gunnison), Boreas Railroad Station Site (Park and Summit), Colorado Millennial Site (Baca and Las Animas), Denver & Rio Grande Railroad San Juan Extension (Archuleta and Conejos), Denver, Northwestern and Pacific Railway Historic District (Boulder, Gilpin and Grande), Durango-Silverton Narrow-Gauge Railroad (La Plata and San Juan), North Inlet Trail (Larimer and Grand), Riverside Cemetery (Adams and Denver), Staunton Ranch-Rural Historic Landscape (Jefferson and Park), Tobasco Mine and Mill (Hinsdale and San Juan), Tonahutu Creek Trail (Larimer and Grand), Trail Ridge Road (Larimer and Grand) and Ute Mountain Ute Mancos Canyon Historic District (La Plata and Montezuma).

Wikilinked section headings

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At present, the section headings for the various counties are wikilinked to the county's article. Per MOS:NOSECTIONLINKS, these links should be removed, leaving just the county name. Senator2029 【talk】 18:40, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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