Talk:List of African-American inventors and scientists

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Consider adding Ronald E McNair?

Physicist and astronaut Dr. McNair should be added. ProfRox (talk) 11:54, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that he should be added. There is hidden text in the article asking that he not be added: "NOTE: Removed McNair, Ronald, an astronaut killed during mission STS-51-L in the Space Shuttle Challenger Disaster. This article is not a list of astronauts, but a listing of inventors and scientists. McNair was a professional astronaut, but he was neither an inventor or scientist. Kindly do not add him into the article again. Thank you." However, he had a Ph.D. in physics from MIT and was employed as a physicist at Hughes. Why in the world would he not go on this list?— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 17:02, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Because having a PhD does not make you an inventor or scientist, in the sense of this list. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 22:47, 4 January 2016 (UTC).[reply]

I agree he should be added as he was a physicist. I am not sure what "in the sense of this list" means, Neil DeGrasse Tyson is on this list (most known as a science communicator).Ll25533 (talk) 23:19, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:African-American gospel which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 23:20, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. Shirley Jackson content dispute

The row for Dr. Shirley Jackson currently includes the text:

However, in a recent article from MIT, there is no evidence that she helped to develop these technologies.^[1]

There is also an HTML comment reading:

Questionable evidence supporting these claims

I am moving these to this talk page, as discussions belong on the talk page, not in the article itself. The article cited as a disproving reference actually makes no mention of these technologies and therefore is not an appropriate reference to the assertion of questionable evidence.

I am leaving the Citation Needed template in place.

Thisisnotatest (talk) 00:43, 31 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Letting original poster User:Rb116 know that I moved their edit from the article page to the talk page. Thisisnotatest (talk) 00:57, 31 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@User: Thisisnotatest from User: Rb116 -- I am very new to editing on Wikipedia, and barely know what the rules are. I do not mind moving it to the Talk page if that's what Wikipedia requires, but I'm concerned that false information is on the public-facing article, and counter-evidence is hidden in the esoteric Talk page that no average person will ever look at. "Citation Needed" hints at it being potentially erroneous information, but the citations in the table's cell to the right make it seem like it's substantiated. I just looked at those references, and neither of them even mention her name, overtly or tangentially, so I deleted those references from that cell. I'm going to reword what I said, putting the emphasis on what the MIT article does say, and not even addressing the other claims made by the "Citation Needed" text.

Why are unsubstantiated claims allowed on Wikipedia? Why is a "Citation Needed" claim with no evidence allowed?

References

^ Schaffer, Amanda. "A cool-headed leader in social justice, nuclear policy, and academia". MIT Technology Review. Retrieved May 1, 2019.

Raphael Carl Lee

Is there a reason the description on his inventions/accomplishments so much longer than others or could it be summarized better? It also needs citations, but I see that other rows do not have the same needs, so perhaps this needs to be addressed Ll25533 (talk) 23:30, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Short description and image on the iOS app

Does anyone know why the iOS app shows a picture of a fly, and has the short description as “Consumption of feces”? I don’t see anything like this on the web version. INDT (talk) 06:24, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

INDT, it's my understanding some of those problems came from Wikidata. The Wikidata item for the list looks ok now. If you're still seeing the problem, or if you encounter it on other pages, please report it at the Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). Thanks, BlackcurrantTea (talk) 10:43, 27 July 2023 (UTC) (I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.)[reply]

Deleted entries

An IP removed four entries which may be appropriate to re-add. See the changes here. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 10:49, 27 July 2023 (UTC) (I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.)[reply]

Sorting

Should this list be sorted between Inventors and Scientists?? and then each list in alphabetical order. When I look at other pages the do it this way they seem a bit easier to navigate

I imagine if a school aged child was tasked with writing about an African American inventor for an assignment for Black History Month, he/she might have to scroll the entire list and then click to find someone whereas if the list were sorted it might make learning a bit easier ...just an idea

proposed sub-categories

1. Anthropology

   Subfields: Cultural Anthropology, Physical Anthropology, Archaeology, Linguistic Anthropology
   Focus: Study of human societies, cultures, and their development over time.

2. Astronomy

   Subfields: Astrophysics, Cosmology, Planetary Science, Stellar Astronomy
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3. Biology

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4. Chemistry

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   Focus: Study of substances, their properties, composition, and the reactions they undergo.

5. Computer Science

   Subfields: Artificial Intelligence, Data Science, Cybersecurity, Software Engineering, Computational Theory
   Focus: Study of computers and computational systems, including algorithms, software, hardware, and applications.

6. Earth Science

   Subfields: Geology, Meteorology, Oceanography, Environmental Science, Paleontology
   Focus: Study of Earth’s structure, natural processes, and the atmosphere, including climate, minerals, and ecosystems.

7. Ecology

   Subfields: Population Ecology, Ecosystem Ecology, Conservation Biology, Landscape Ecology
   Focus: Study of the relationships between organisms and their environment, including ecosystems and biodiversity.

8. Economics

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   Focus: Study of resource allocation, production, and consumption, as well as decision-making in markets.

9. Environmental Science

   Subfields: Conservation Science, Climate Science, Environmental Chemistry, Ecology
   Focus: Study of interactions between the environment and living organisms, focusing on human impacts and sustainable practices.

10. Geography

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11. Linguistics

   Subfields: Phonetics, Syntax, Semantics, Sociolinguistics, Psycholinguistics
   Focus: Study of language, its structure, development, and social usage.

12. Materials Science

   Subfields: Nanomaterials, Metallurgy, Polymer Science, Biomaterials
   Focus: Study of the properties and applications of materials (metals, ceramics, polymers) and their uses in technology.

13. Mathematics

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14. Medicine

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15. Neuroscience

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16. Physics

   Subfields: Classical Mechanics, Quantum Physics, Thermodynamics, Optics, Electromagnetism, Nuclear Physics
   Focus: Study of matter, energy, forces, and the fundamental laws governing the universe.

17. Political Science

   Subfields: International Relations, Political Theory, Comparative Politics, Public Administration
   Focus: Study of government systems, political activities, theories, and behavior.

18. Psychology

   Subfields: Cognitive Psychology, Developmental Psychology, Clinical Psychology, Behavioral Neuroscience, Social Psychology
   Focus: Study of the mind, behavior, and mental processes, including emotions, cognition, and perception.

19. Sociology

   Subfields: Criminology, Social Theory, Urban Sociology, Gender Studies
   Focus: Study of social behavior, institutions, and patterns of relationships in human society.

20. Social Sciences

   Subfields: Sociology, Anthropology, Economics, Political Science, Geography
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RFAvaria (talk) 10:57, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Schaffer, Amanda. "A cool-headed leader in social justice, nuclear policy, and academia". MIT Technology Review. Retrieved May 1, 2019.

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