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Female succession

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This piece of information was discussed before. But can anyone point out to where in the Liechtenstein Princely Family Law does it say that women can reign once all male lines are extinct? Cjrs 79 19:44, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually Liechtenstein does allow female succession, this may only occur if the male branches of the Princely family die out. This is the type of succession practiced in Luxembourg Mac Domhnaill 21:22, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can you show a reference to that? I can show you the link to the princely house law which does not allow such succesion to happen. As you know succesion laws were changed in Luxembourg but never in Liechtenstein. Actually the law in Liechtenstein says that ONLY voting memeber of the princely family association can be Reigning Prince, and as of today only men are voting members. Moreover, it states that the Reigning Prince may aodpt another male to continue the dinasty. I wold really appreciate it if you could show a reference to your comment. Take Care. Cjrs 79 04:35, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It states [[1]] and in many other sources, that only those who have the right to vote can succeed to the throne. In Liechtenstein, women have the right to vote. I would like to get some info of the Princely' family's official site, but it was not running earlier. But ill try later. Mac Domhnaill 18:49, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Its not about who has a right to vote in the country, but who has a right to vote in the princely family council, in which only women are allowed to vote. The law states "...Only in the case where the male line of the Princely House is to die out may the last Reigning Prince adopt an Hereditary Prince...", moreover Article 9 states: "In matters covered by this Constitution, all male members of the family who are of full age within the meaning thereof (Article 6), who have full legal capacity and who are entitled to succeed to the throne, have the right to vote. " And then Article 12, Section 3 states: "Only persons who have the right to vote and to stand for election within the meaning of this Constitution may succeed to the throne." And Article 1 of that same section states "... 1) Succession to the throne pursuant to this Constitution shall be governed by the principle of primogeniture. This means that the first-born male of the eldest line is always called to succeed to the throne. The age of a dynastic line shall be calculated by reference to descent from Prince Johann I of Liechtenstein (1760-1836)". Notice how section 2 talks about women but only to determine their ranks in the family and not succession rights. lt me know what you think. If I am wrong I am more than welcome to accept it. I might be reading it wrong, or maybe an outdated document. Cjrs 79 21:16, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You meant to say "who has a right to vote in the princely family council, in which only MEN are allowed to vote". СЛУЖБА (talk) 09:32, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Inline" honorifics

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The guideline (not policy) states that it makes a careful distinction between NOBILITY and ROYALTY. This would be the category of ROYALTY. The paragraph on honorifics for ROYALTY states that honorifics are not to be used to OPEN an article. It says nothing about "inline" (however you interpret that word) in the ROYALTY paragraph, which, as the guideline states, is to be carefully distinguished from the paragraph on NOBILITY guidelines. Case closed. ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 02:00, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reread the policy; if you feel like debating it, do it on that page; I only came to this one because you linked it and don't want to start an edit war. I believe I am correct in removing all inline honorifics. And they're ugly and their inclusion is unneccessary. Titanium Dragon 00:08, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I concur with Titanium Dragon. —Nightstallion (?) 09:23, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are there really only 15 people who can legally rule?

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The list stops at 15 with no sugestion that there are any others in the line of sucession, does this mean that there are only 15 people presently alive who can legally be Prince of Liechtenstein? what happens if those 15 die without new children? This page either needs to confirm the list as complete, possibly with an explanation of what happens if they all die or it needs to explicitly state that its uncomplete.(86.31.188.36 (talk) 02:10, 15 August 2008 (UTC))[reply]

You're right. Now there are 20. If those 20 die out, the Sovereign Prince has the right to adopt a new Hereditary Prince. If he does not, the succession follows primogeniture from the last Sovereign Prince, bypassing females in favor of their sons. СЛУЖБА (talk) 10:09, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Where did you find that information? Surtsicna (talk) 18:52, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
As shown at de:Stammliste von Liechtenstein#Von Franz Josef I. (Liechtenstein) an, there are much more than 20 people in the line of succession. I gave up counting when I reached 40 and realised it might be impossible to track all of them. Surtsicna (talk) 20:12, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is the succession only limited to the descendants of Prince Aloys? What about his brothers or his uncle Prince Johannes Franz's descendants and the descendants of his great uncle Prince Eduard Franz of Liechtenstein?--The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 04:56, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I know, all male agnates of the House of Liechtenstein are entitled to succeed. Thus, the actual line is much longer than the one in this article. Surtsicna (talk) 10:48, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Who is the furthest male agnate? Does the current prince sixth cousins who the titles of Prince X of Liechtenstein.--The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 05:26, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The furthest male agnates who are in the line of succession are the descendants of Eduard Franz. I believe they are Hans-Adam II's fourth cousins. I've tried to compile a full list here, but gave up when I realised that the line of Eduard Franz is still very much extant. You are very much welcome to assist in maintaining it and/or expanding it. Surtsicna (talk) 09:35, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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