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Picture

Can we get a pic peeps? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.98.191.103 (talk) 07:54, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Not if it is copyrighted, which is the reason why so many inserted here have been deleted. - Sitush (talk) 08:46, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 1 October 2012

Hi! I just wanted to add a picture of Kylie and also her sister Kendall. Let me know if I can please! -MariB90 MariB90 (talk) 16:45, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

You can add a picture if it follows the image policy. A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 12:54, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 February 2014

i would like to change her height and also the status of her relationship because she is currently 5 foot 8 inches and in a relationship. Smontana123 (talk) 02:49, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 11:32, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 February 2014

Smontana123 (talk) 02:51, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested a change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 11:33, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Socialite

I don't think she is a socialite. First, you can't be a socialite at age 17, and you can't be one if you got your start in reality TV. Socialites are people with a lot of money who attend lots of classy parties and charitable events - emphasis on classy. It is a highbrow term. None of the Jenners or Kardashians are highbrow enough to fit in this group. Go to newyorksocialdiary.com if you want to see what socialites are. 108.244.74.98 (talk) 02:37, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 May 2015

justn a newer and clearer photograph for Kylie Jenner. Its at: http://40.media.tumblr.com/183beb6666ab552d7d4d5f0952cd3e5d/tumblr_nodrsepBJZ1u0737co1_500.jpg Jks0222 (talk) 13:31, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Not done: Hi Jks0222. Unfortunately, it is unlikely that we will be able to use that image, as it is likely copyrighted (due to legal reasons, we must assume that images on the Internet are copyrighted unless the author explicitly waives their rights). Under Wikipedia's Non-free content policy, we cannot use copyrighted photos to illustrate living people, even under the fair use criteria, because if the person is still alive, it should be possible to find a non-copyrighted photo of them. Note that the image in this article is a screenshot from a Youtube video where the uploader specifically released it under a Creative Commons License permitting reuse. Altamel (talk) 14:24, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Lips

Can we mention that she had lip fillers, or is that "WP:TRIVIA"?

--88.104.136.143 (talk) 19:09, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Father?

Can someone explain why Caitlyn Jenner is listed as Kylie's father? This is misgendering, plain and simple, though perhaps more subtle than usual. I vote we either change it to "Mother" or simply remove it entirely. Thoughts? 162.235.91.193 (talk) 16:02, 10 June 2015 (UTC) CaitlynFan

  • It isn't misgendering, as Caitlyn is Kylie's biological father. Whilst Caitlyn is of course now recognized as a female, the fact of the matter is that at the time, she wasn't, and I don't believe she identified as a female at that point. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 16:44, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
Just because she wasn't recognized as a woman doesn't mean she wasn't a woman. Identifying Caitlyn as a father - and, therefore, indirectly as a man - is strictly against Wiki policy, per MOS:IDENTITY. 162.235.91.193 (talk) 17:30, 10 June 2015 (UTC)CaitlynFan
I'm generally sympathetic towards the misgendering arguments, but that one is simply ludicrous. Following our policies may lead to the conclusion that Kylie's father was a woman, but can't lead to the conclusion that Caitlyn was Kylie's mother.—Kww(talk) 17:42, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
It's ludicrous to suggest that a woman was someone's mother. It's not ludicrous to suggest that a woman was someone's father. Is that what you're saying? 162.235.91.193 (talk) 18:02, 10 June 2015 (UTC)CaitlynFan
  • Look, CaitlynFan, Caitlyn was known as Bruce at the time, and she, as far as anyone can tell, identified as male at that point in time. She is Kylie Jenner's biological father, and I'm sure you know how natural babies are made by now. And you're also deliberately misrepresenting Kww's comment there, by the way. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 18:04, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
Who cares what people think Caitlyn identified as at the time of conception? We now know that she's a woman and has always been a woman. Wiki policy says we avoid harm and avoid misgendering. Don't like that? Take it to MOS:IDENTITY. 162.235.91.193 (talk) 18:09, 10 June 2015 (UTC)CaitlynFan
  • The thing is, she is biologically Kylie's father - which, unless you've got DNA evidence to the contrary, is an indisputable fact - so she needs listing as Kylie's father in the infobox. I don't see the point in wasting any further time with someone making a fairly daft demand based on a misinterpretation of policy. And for what it's worth, I don't see having a female father as being necessarily that crazy; some kids brought up by lesbians may well identify one parent as being their father, and the opposite may occur for a child brought up by two male parents. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 19:12, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
  • "Father" and "Mother" may be gendered words in sociological usage, however they also have clearly defined biological definitions. Caitlyn is, in fact, biologially the father of Kylie (i.e. Caitlyn provided the sperm necessary to conceive Kylie). Therefore, I believe that Caitlyn should be listed as "Father". - 2602:306:C5A7:4D40:450C:7937:B3E7:4062 (talk) 23:30, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
  • I don't think anyone is denying that Caitlyn biologically provided the sperm that conceived Kylie. The question is why it is relevant to specifically point that out. In comparison, the infobox in the Bill Clinton article doesn't explicitly make a point out of whether each of mr. Clinton's parents provided either a sperm or an egg. So why is it suddenly so important to point this out just because one of Kylie's parents is transgender? To me, making a big deal out of the fact that Caitlyn Jenner biologically fathered Kylie comes off as spiteful, as a way of subtly reminding everyone that Caitlyn Jenner used to be considered a man by society. I see no other justification for this than trans-shaming, which is a childish form of bullying unfit for an encyclopedia. I say we should treat Kylie Jenner just the same as Bill Clinton and remove the mother/father identifiers. Belchior90 (talk) 18:17, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
  • That's a good point. I was under the impression that the sidebar was more standardized than it actually is (as in it always lists mother and father with identifies, etc.). However, with the Bill Clinton example, Clinton's parents aren't labelled "Father" and "Mother" BUT the sidebar does list his biological father as his parent despite the fact that his father died before he was born and Bill Clinton's father (father in the sociological sense - i.e. caretaker and guardian) isn't listed on the sidebar at all. Another example is that Kim Kardashian is listed as "half-sister" (biological definition) when in fact they were raised as sisters (sociological definition). From my reading of various celebrity biographies is that the sidebar takes biological meanings first, followed by legal meanings and then sociological meanings. My point is that we should standardize the sidebar. Familial relationships can get quite complicated. - 2602:306:C5A7:4D40:98DC:7079:BA40:A0BB (talk) 16:32, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
  • It is my opinion that we should remove "Father." but we should then also remove "Mother" from Kris Jenner on this article and associated articles. - 2602:306:C5A7:4D40:98DC:7079:BA40:A0BB (talk) 16:32, 27 June 2015 (UTC) Also, Caitlyn Jenner should always be listed as Caitlyn Jenner (formerly Bruce) or just Caitlyn Jenner rather than Bruce Jenner (now Caitlyn). On Brody Jenner's page it was listed as the latter and I changed it to the former. - 2602:306:C5A7:4D40:98DC:7079:BA40:A0BB (talk) 16:36, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 July 2015

Bruce Jenner is the father of Kylie & Kendall. There is no way CAITLYN Jenner can be. Please fix.. 24.204.45.151 (talk) 14:13, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Given previous discussions on this page and ongoing discussions at MOS:IDENTITY, there's definitely no consensus to make such a change at this time. Please feel free to contribute your thoughts there. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 17:35, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 September 2015

Parent is Bruce Jenner, not Caitlyn Jenner.

72.49.12.20 (talk) 11:32, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Not done: see explanation immediately above. Cannolis (talk) 12:56, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 November 2015

Pizzaeater007 (talk) 19:36, 10 November 2015 (UTC) biggest pothead on the planet

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -- ferret (talk) 19:41, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Requested redirect

Kylie Jenner → Keeping Up with the Kardashians

The last AfD was keep but the closing admin said that it did not prohibit editors from redirecting to an appropriate target, either boldly or by talk page consensus. So she is a part of the Kardashian mob, I wouldn't dare just boldly redirect it in fear of the backlash lol But I think she needs to be redirected to Keeping Up with the Kardashians. She's notable for nothing, not yet anyway. Maybe in a couple years when she's made a name for herself other than just being apart of the K tribe. Support or Oppose with a valid reason and not just because you love her. Pinging editors who commented on the last AfD @SNUGGUMS:, @OnlyGCX: LADY LOTUS • TALK 11:50, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

  • Support per WP:BIOFAMILY, which states "Being related to a notable person in itself confers no degree of notability upon that person", and notability is not inherited. 13:44, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
  • No Merge I don't care for the person but if anyone else had "written" a book that got reviewed enough by multiple sources, hosted a national award broadcast, created multiple fashion brands with her name, appeared on multiple reality shows, been on multiple magazine covers, some phenomenon called the "Kylie Jenner lip challenge" is being reported on, no matter if the family got her the fame, some cases this works out (Michael Jackson). If it was anyone else they would qualify and all because someone is a member of a family is not a reason to merge, all that coverage plus what she gets for her controversy/"philanthropy" pushes her over WP:GNG. I find it laughable one support was considered a "discussion" enough to merge. I can understand some might feel like the person below in the sub header but that's not the case. Being on national magazine covers/writing national books/hosting national televised award shows is enough via WP:GNG GuzzyG (talk) 00:29, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep/restore I honestly don't care either about American "stars" like this, but I think GuzzyG has made a good case for why Jenner is individually notable. (I'm really not seeing any consensus to redirect, and please don't redirect this talk page, we're allowed to have a discussion. I can see that I'm responding a little late, but it's not too late to undo the redirect.) — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 16:47, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment per the AfD, there were 4 votes total, 2 for redirects and 2 for keeps for reason of her being a "host" of an award show. The admin stated at the closing "The result was keep. This does not prohibit editors from redirecting to an appropriate target, either WP:BOLDly or by talk page consensus." I came here to get talk page consensus, along with the two other votes from AfD and the other one from the talk page, I waited a month to get more responses but there were none so I redirected it. LADY LOTUS • TALK 17:35, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
It is also important to remember WP:IDONTLIKEIT GuzzyG (talk) 03:15, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment I undid the redirect see WP:Requests for undeletion#Kylie Jenner Naue7 (talk) 23:12, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
    • I'm going to copy User:Fuhghettaboutit's comment from here since they make some important points: "I see little in the way of consensus at that small discussion." ... "Additional consensus can also be sought by drawing more people to the discussion, but I don't see much point to that as ultimately this should be expanded (definitely not by me) – because Kylie Jenner is massively, inarguably notable, being written about in detail i thousands and thousands of reliable secondary sources. That is, if someone is willing to take the time to do so properly for this BLP, which requires high quality sourcing. The people at the talk page discussion are confused. They appear to be substituting some idea of gravitas with notability, and making assessments from what appears in the article rather than what appears in the world. The objective standard is met so completely here, that there's little to discuss about it (there are 132 news articles mentioning her found through Google News that were posted over the last 24 hours; of course we require substantive coverage, but I am just giving that statistic to set the stage for just how absurd is the idea that there is any notability question here). This is also notwithstanding the 2015 AfD discussion, which is an apparent incredible failure of anyone to actually look to evidence." — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 08:44, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Support per WP:BIOFAMILY Rockhead126 (talk) 17:19, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Tyga

Why is Kylie's relationship with Tyga mentioned on his Wikipedia page but not on hers? I saw another post about this on the Talk page but the relationship has not been added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.81.182.235 (talk) 01:41, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 April 2016

That main cover photo is not the best to use for such a huge celebrity. Some choices where CC 2.0 is shown on Flickr.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kylie_Jenner_Billboard_Music_Awards.jpg https://www.flickr.com/photos/disneyabc/19548211370/

Can we get a subthread as well on her lip kit success - and the fast sell out. http://fashionista.com/2016/03/kylie-lip-kit-traffic http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/kylie-jenner-lipstick-sold-out_us_565c88cde4b079b2818b0049?section=australia http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3433994/Kris-Jenner-joins-daughter-Kylie-work-lab-Lip-Kit-sells-out.html

Ja3ob (talk) 16:03, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

 Not done the image has already been deleted as "Non-free Flickr license disallowing commercial use and/or derivative works" the second "request" is not a specific change in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ". - Arjayay (talk) 20:15, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

the photo that is used for kylie is a terrible photo of her. is there any way to add a better one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meganknudsen (talk • contribs) 03:17, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Is this entry anyway consistent with the Wikimedia Foundation's charitable aims and status as a tax exempt US entity?

This protected article makes no mention, or even provides capacity for discussion, of legitimate criticism (amongst deserved praise of this person). That criticism not only has suitable citations to genuine references but has also been cited in documents produced in legal matters in compliance with the jurisdictions in which Wikipedia operates. I came to this page to try and learn who this person was, I read the output of copywriters. I don't blame them, they are doing their job obviously very well. I don't even say that facetiously. But where is the objective moderation of this entry? It is the moderators', albeit voluntary, obligation to a charitable trust to provide at least the means for balance.

Five minutes ago I wanted to know who Kylie Jenner was. I still have no idea. 131.111.128.45 (talk) 14:09, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Personal life

Kylie and Tyga were then later spotted at Kanye West ” Famous" premiere holding hands and announced they have gotten back together as a couple. Dab4life (talk) 18:17, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

"Kylie Cosmetics" hyperlinked in introduction Paragraph

"Kylie Cosmetics" should not be hyperlinked as it redirects back to Jenner's main page

this version is below:

In 2015, Jenner launched her own beauty line called Kylie Cosmetics[2] and a best-selling app, which reached number 1 on the iTunes app store.[3][4][5]

KAL68 (talk) 02:05, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Done — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:51, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Fernadez, Steven. "Remix Magazine Beauty & Luxe Edition with KYLIE JENNER". Remix Magazine. Remix Magazine. Retrieved 5 May 2015.
  2. ^ http://www.glamour.com/story/kylie-jenner-lip-kit-live-blog-all-the-updates-on-her-new-colors-and-when-shes-restocking. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
  3. ^ http://nypost.com/2015/09/24/why-kylie-is-the-most-popular-of-the-kardashian-clan/. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
  4. ^ http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/kylie-jenner-takes-top-spot-6449076. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
  5. ^ http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/kylie-jenner-takes-top-spot-6449076. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

Relationship with Tyga

Okay for several months now it's been reported Kylie and Tyga are in a relationship. The media has been on this for a long time. It sparked a twitter feud between Khloé and Amber Rose also involving Kayne West. It has also sparked a feud with Blac Chyna.[1] However, he denied those rumors for months until March 2015, when he declared his love for Jenner, confirming their relationship.[1]

 Partly done Naue7 (talk) 18:33, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Do we also need to list her past relationship with Cody Simpson? ---- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2597534/Kylie-Jenner-heads-salon-ex-Cody-Simpson-jokes-breakup.html
I don't see why not look at Leo DiCaprio's page. I would suggest not using the dailymail as a source though as someone has already deleted all the refs from this article saying it's unreliable. Here is a direct source from Cody saying it in a radio interview on their site that should be a good source to use.[1] Also you could add Jaden Smith.[2][3][4] Naue7 (talk) 00:30, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
  1. ^ a b "Tyga Confirms Relationship with Kylie Jenner in Sweet Instagram Post". People Magazine. March 14, 2015. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1= (help); Missing or empty |url= (help)


Their are several repots and photos of Tyga and Kylie getting back together. It says on this page that they broke up in May 2016 but it's clear to anyone who keeps up with them that they are back together. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.24.210.152 (talk) 00:21, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Change of picture ?

Hey is there anyway you can change it to a different picture ? Brandn2015 (talk) 07:33, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Please see WP:IMAGES. EvergreenFir (talk) 08:04, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Missing Career Information

Hello,

I am currently writing in class as a part of an activity critiquing Wikipedia pages. When looking at this page, I noticed that there is missing information about Kylie's cosmetic company. It is just mentioned very quickly under her personal branding. Adding a section on this can be beneficial as it is a huge part of her life and career now (as many articles have been written about the success), as she is constantly promoting it on social media platforms. She is also doing a collabortion with her cosmetic company and donating money to charity.

--Ssmart09 (talk) 17:30, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 November 2016

In 2015, Jenner launched her own cosmetics line called Kylie Cosmetics [6] and a best-selling app, which reached number 1 on the iTunes app store.[7][8] Devinciobrown (talk) 04:41, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. EvergreenFir (talk) 05:10, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 November 2016

please change kylie cosmetics to Kylie Cosmetics because she has a page for it now, it does not redirect back to her page. Devinciobrown (talk) 15:13, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 December 2016

The "Early Life" section seems to have been tampered with. She doesn't have a sister named Flurt, didn't graduate high school with a "Big Butt" diploma, Kimtember isn't a thing, and I also think that Sierra Canyon School does not have an Illuminati Twerking Team. 24.207.220.108 (talk) 02:25, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Done Vandalism reverted EvergreenFir (talk) 03:58, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Pepsi add?

Should there be something about the Pepsi add in this article? It caused quite a commotion, see here, or nah? Inter&anthro (talk) 04:15, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Kylie Jenner did not participate in that commercial. Mymis (talk)
Opps your right it was the other Jenner sorry about that. Inter&anthro (talk) 14:46, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Kylie Jenner effect

Shawn B the article here that you reference doesn't mention a "Kylie Jenner effect" at all. I think you're engaging in WP:SYNTH with this one EvergreenFir (talk) 06:47, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Lead sentence format

About this revert: [5]. Note that the MOS favors conciseness in the lead. See for example, from MOS:BLPLEAD: "The lead sentence should describe the person as he or she is commonly described in reliable sources. ... avoid overloading the lead paragraph with various sundry roles; instead, emphasize what made the person notable. Incidental and non-notable roles (i.e. activities that are not integral to the person's notability) should usually not be mentioned in the lead paragraph." And, from WP:LEADSENTENCE: "Try to not overload the first sentence by describing everything notable about the subject. Instead use the first sentence to introduce the topic, and then spread the relevant information out over the entire lead." Hence, I will remove the extraneous descriptors from the lead sentence. Please do not reintroduce without WP:RS showing that she is commonly described as such. LK (talk) 01:33, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Kylie Jenner vs Momna Khan section needs to be rewritten

I was looking for a reference to add to the sentence "KDB also referred to Jenner as a “secondary reality television personality” who appears on Keeping Up with the Kardashians as “supporting character” to the Kardashians: Kim, Khloé and Kourtney" and noticed much of this content seems to be copied and pasted from other sites, namely this article from People. I can list a few references I found here to help out with this being rewritten. I'm checking "watch this page" to make it easier for me to reply back if needed. Thanks, -Melodies1917 (talk) 17:23, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

UPDATE: I have added the copy paste template to this section.-Melodies1917 (talk) 18:41, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
The offending edit seems to be this one. User:Felipeedit - Abequinn14 (talk) 11:49, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 September 2017

Can you guys remove actress from her opening lead. That’s not her occupation. 2600:387:8:5:0:0:0:C1 (talk) 01:51, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. This is contradicted by the Filmography section. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 02:10, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 November 2017

Kylie is pregnant with Travis Scott's baby 105.227.230.142 (talk) 18:14, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2018

Change the picture caption back to "Jenner in March 2015" 23.243.53.210 (talk) 06:56, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

 Done. I've warned the user who changed it. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 07:06, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Pregnacy

She is, per sources such as CNN and People, reportedly pregnant. Not sure we have a location to write that though,no "personal life" section exists. SecretName101 (talk) 00:48, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

TMZ broke news; father is Travis Scott, whom she has been dating since April. Expecting a girl in February; first child for both. "Kylie Jenner Pregnant" 47.152.245.51 (talk) 03:10, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
Those are all rumours from unreliable websites and sources. Please avoid adding this until it is officially confirmed. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a gossip site. Callmemirela 🍁 talk 04:00, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
People has confirmed w/MULTIPLE sources. "Kylie Jenner, 20, ‘Surprised but So Happy’ to Be Expecting Baby Girl with Travis Scott" 47.152.245.51 (talk) 05:54, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
People also uses "sources". This is nothing but speculation. Any source that uses source, insider, family member, friend, etc. are mostly unreliable and purely speculation. It's just gossip and gives no credibility to the source. Callmemirela 🍁 talk 06:11, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
Also, read WP:GOSSIP. Callmemirela 🍁 talk 06:23, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
Since when is People unreliable? They're one of the more reputable magazines. Also: [6] CB19 (talk) 21:36, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
People is definitely reliable, and honestly so is TMZ. The only thing is TMZ uses questionable methods of collecting info, but they aren't unreliable.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 18:44, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
As I have said before, the sources are reliable. It's how they are sourcing the information. It uses words like friend, family member, family friend, insider, sources, etc. It's just speculation and is highly unreliable. It adds no credibility. If Wikipedia were to run like a gossip site, we'd be writing about almost everything from Kylie's personal life. These things are easily debunked. Elle, if I am not mistaken, is reliable and wrote a report about Kim Kardashian, which she herself debunked. For things like this, they should be confirmed by Kylie herself, any close family member, or her rep team. Everything else is just speculation. Callmemirela 🍁 talk 19:32, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

People Magazine appears to be sticking to the story that she is indeed pregnant.
http://people.com/tv/pregnant-kylie-jenner-new-selfies/ (November 21)
http://people.com/babies/pregnant-kylie-jenner-self-conscious-about-changing-body/ (November 15)
http://people.com/tv/pregnant-kylie-jenner-hosts-family-thanksgiving/ (November 24)
http://people.com/tv/kylie-jenner-covers-up-her-bump-with-christmas-sweater-never-have-i-ever/ (November 29)
http://people.com/babies/pregnant-kylie-jenner-shares-daring-snaps/ (December 1)
http://people.com/style/kylie-jenner-skips-wwd-award-ceremony/ (December 7)
http://people.com/home/pregnant-kylie-jenner-christmas-tree-holiday-photos/ (December 5)
http://people.com/tv/kylie-jenner-travis-scott-excited-about-baby/ (December 8)
http://people.com/babies/kylie-jenner-pregnant-pink-baby-gear/ (December 11)

In addition, other outlets are also continuing to report it as well.
https://www.christianpost.com/news/kylie-jenner-hints-at-rumored-pregnancy-with-her-new-christmas-tree-209665/
http://www.seventeen.com/celebrity/a14415545/kylie-jenner-is-apparently-buying-a-ton-of-pink-baby-stuff-and-you-know-what-that-means/
https://www.elitedaily.com/p/hints-kylie-jenner-is-having-a-girl-can-be-found-in-her-home-so-look-closely-7547429
http://celebrityinsider.org/pregnant-kylie-jenner-celebrated-landing-100-million-on-instagram-she-is-still-dominating-social-media-even-while-shes-hiding-94990/
https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/pregnant-kylie-jenner-reveals-insane-20-foot-christmas-tree/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/5094193/kylie-jenner-pregnant-baby-girl-christmas-tree-pink/
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2017/12/kylie-jenner-christmas-tree-pink SecretName101 (talk) 02:05, 13 December 2017 (UTC)



On February 4th 2018, Kylie Jenner posted to Instagram revealing the birth of her and Travis Scott's first born baby girl, born February 1st 2018. Apologizing for keeping everyone "in the dark through all the assumptions", Kylie commented on how she wanted to keep her unborn baby healthy and stress-free during her pregnancy. [1]. Giving birth to a beautiful and healthy baby girl weighing in at 8lb 9oz, Kylie says she has never felt this much in love and happiness before. Alongside her reveal on Instagram, Kylie posted a video montage on YouTube, entitled "To Our Daughter" [2]which gives the world a glimpse into the 9 month pregnancy as well as the small video of the birth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Courtneyclairemc (talk • contribs) 23:23, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

The info currently under her personal life section is inaccurate. She gave birth February 1, 2018, but did not make the announcement until February 4, 2018. [3] Anuera (talk) 23:20, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ https://www.instagram.com/p/BeycUmgFTWb/?taken-by=kyliejenner
  2. ^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhIEIO0vaBE
  3. ^ https://twitter.com/KylieJenner/status/960249348624797696

Semi-protected edit request on 7 February 2018

Kylie Jenner and Travis Scott became parents on February 1st. Kylie gave birth to a beautiful daughter named Stormi. MayAlice (talk) 09:11, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

 Already done. This is already mentioned in the personal life section. Gulumeemee (talk) 09:56, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 February 2018

Yessica12345 (talk) 23:59, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

she just gave birth to a baby girl Stormi webster

 Already done st170e 00:07, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Updated photo

If someone could please update the main profile photo on this article - the current photo depicts the subject from almost three years ago, is blurry and poorly framed. A photo that translates the current appearance of the subject and is as free of distracting and distorting elements as possible would, I think, be most appropriate as the main profile photo for a Wiki article subject. Thanks.

Navarrocortez (talk) 03:37, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

@Navarrocortez: done. --Panam2014 (talk) 22:57, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Navarrocortez (talk) 16:26, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 May 2018

Mireya Bast (talk) 23:39, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. NiciVampireHeart 23:54, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 June 2018

Anayasmiy (talk) 17:06, 27 June 2018 (UTC)w
 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. EvergreenFir (talk) 17:12, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

900 million is not 1 billion

In the article it says:

"According to Forbes magazine, her makeup empire is worth $900 million, making her titled as the next youngest ever self-made billionaire".

Surely this is a prediction by Forbes magazine. I think since this is a prediction it should be in the main body of the article. When she becomes a billionaire include it in the lead. I also notice that the criticism about the self-made billionaire headline appears to be absent. Mobile mundo (talk) 17:59, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Updated 'self made' controversy to include fame as well as fortune

Currently article states: "This resulted in much controversy as many have argued that Jenner, having been born into a wealthy family, didn’t constitute as "self-made".[107]"

Edit to expand the complaints of critics as is apparent on numerous media platforms to: "This resulted in much controversy as many have argued that Jenner, having been born into a wealthy and already famous (Or possibly notable) family, didn’t constitute as "self-made".[107]" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:8C0F:F100:819C:9CA0:E964:69AE (talk) 12:38, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Kylie in Travis Scott Music Video

I was reading Kylie’s filmography and I noticed that there’s not a place for her in Travis Scott’s Video “Stop Trying” (2018). Her page is protected against vandalism, understandable, but maybe someone can add this for me with my credit? Thanks! Jillianmimi (talk) 11:46, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 September 2018

In section 3.2.3, the artist is "Sara Pope" not "Sara Hope." 50.58.83.194 (talk) 15:59, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

 Done, thanks! ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 16:52, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 October 2018

109.247.56.238 (talk) 11:40, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

lars erik elsker kylie jenner mer en alt

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 11:47, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 October 2018

ill edit some wrong informations WEYLLANTINO (talk) 05:57, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Danski454 (talk) 10:55, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 November 2018

WEY 2323 (talk) 02:06, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

for additional bio

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 05:11, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Personal Life

Hello everyone,

This is a very detailed and well put together page on Kylie Jenner's upbringing. But, I do want to note that underneath her "personal life," Kylie's relationship with Tyga is briefly mentioned and therefore underrepresented. Since Kylie Jenner had dated Tyga from August 2015 up until April 3rd, 2017,[1] it would be important to note their timeline and controversies, given the rumours that Kylie was underaged the time the pair allegedly began dating.--Turqoise1395 (talk) 18:48, 15 November 2018 (UTC)now Kylie is dating famous rapper Travis Scott (Jacques Berman Webster II) and have a baby girl called Stormi Webster corn 1st February 2018 she kept her pregnancy a secret for a long time

References

  1. ^ "This is how long Tyga and Kylie Jenner dated". babe.net. Retrieved 15 November 2018.

Semi-protected edit request on 2 December 2018

she now has a daughter which she had on 1 febuary Kinda.kylie (talk) 10:07, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: This is mentioned in Kylie Jenner#Personal life Galobtter (pingó mió) 10:55, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 February 2019

Gfazzepoo (talk) 09:37, 17 February 2019 (UTC) Kylie Jenner has
 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Jenner has what? NiciVampireHeart 00:27, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Less Redundant Use of She. Same Goes For Kourtney/Khloe

I've done this to Kim's talk page about her surname not being used more than once after opening sentence of her occupations of a model and TV personality but a random IP address string responded with "What does this even mean?"

But the discussion is now closed. Main story is Kourtney and Khloe's surname should be used after their opening sentences e.g. the latter's should be something like this: "Since 2007, Kardashian has starred with her family in the E! reality television series Keeping Up With the Kardashians..."

Kylie's side of the story: Since elder sis Kendall has her surname being used after profession, using she in this case is repetitive and monotonous. It should've been put like this since article inception: "Jenner has starred in the E! Reality tv series Keeping Up With the Kardashians since October 14, 2007...."

Last but not least for Kim, did someone take the edit request of her surname not being used more than once after opening sentence? Of course the you-know-what tape made her famous at the ripe young age of 26. Please ler someone reply to this suggestion.

Lights out,

67.81.163.178 (talk) 01:39, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: It is a valid editorial decision to use the last name in place of repeated use of "she". I don't see a compelling reason for the changes you mention. —C.Fred (talk) 21:58, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 March 2019

Daisylil08 (talk) 16:42, 19 March 2019 (UTC)


kylie Jenner has recently had a baby stormi with rapper Travis Scott

 Not done: WP:NONAME. NiciVampireHeart 16:57, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

She got beat an egg

A couple of months ago, an egg broke the world record for having the most likes on Instagram. The egg beat Kylie Jenner even though it had bigger pores than her. Unlike Kylie Jenner, the egg did not have big lips. Many were happy that the egg won but others were upset, like Kylie Jenner. Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).2600:1700:8780:93D0:72:1A9C:53F0:9372 (talk) 02:56, 22 March 2019 (UTC) https://kutv.com/news/state/egg-attempts-to-break-world-record-on-instagram

Controversies needs updating

Do you think the backlash about her Handmaid's Tale party should be added? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48551065 2.28.151.240 (talk) 06:03, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

No. -- Begoon 06:18, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Wealth dispute

Kylie Jenners net worth has been disputed by other sources due to Forbes estimation of her company's worth.[1]

References

  1. ^ https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/models/kylie-jenner-net-worth/

She is actually worth $1.99, give or take a penny.

Take Wande mehllomahle (talk) 20:27, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Put trans people current name first, not inside brackets

Title about Caitlyn Jenner.

She is a strong, brave and encouraging woman. She is a celeb, and many people would obviously judge and underistimate her,for what she is and what she does. Wande mehllomahle (talk) 20:31, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Stormi Webster listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Stormi Webster. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Launchballer 20:52, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Significant ?

Is this woman known enough for an encyclopedic article ? Apart from her astronomic salary - known for what and where ? Boeing720 (talk) 12:34, 11 July 2019 (UTC) She has millions and millions of followers... she is one of the most famous people in the world. yes. --Candy bling1 (talk) 21:15, 13 August 2019 (UTC)Candy bling1

Kylie

Kylie Jenner has broken up with Travis scott Prudencegloria (talk) 17:37, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 October 2019

Kylie jenner is no longer in a relationship with Travis Scott 93.136.148.206 (talk) 16:50, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please provide reliable sources and establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Begoon 16:53, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

Music

Kylie's first song "Rise and Shine" was published to YouTube on October 10, 2019. Artists such as Ariana Grande and Miley Cyrus have responded to the hit, with Grande even offering to sample it. After "Rise and Shine" went viral within the following week, Jenner released hoodies and even recorded a video to show Stormi.

Lyrics: nn Rise and Shine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alsysaalsya (talk • contribs) 01:50, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Name of her daughter

Could you edit the name of her daughter next to the "1 children" part in her description? I would put it like "Children: 1 (Stormi Webster)"

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.46.13.231 (talk) 11:55, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Net Worth

The recent Forbes article readjusted her net worth to ~$900M. Can someone update that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Katabatic03 (talk • contribs) 02:36, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 May 2020

122.162.232.38 (talk) 08:21, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Forbes removed Kylie from Billionare list

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. JTP (talk • contribs) 17:39, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 May 2020

I want to add a substantive change on the child. Drnickshious (talk) 14:11, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:39, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 June 2020

Her net worth is just under 900 million. She isn’t a billionaire anymore. 2601:585:8180:1910:38C8:1303:4814:A70A (talk) 03:24, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 03:54, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 July 2020

Add Bangladesh Garments worker controversy to the controversies section.

Payment of Bangladeshi Workers

Amidst the 2020 COVID-19 Pandemic, US reality TV star Kylie Jenner and Rapper Cardi B faced huge criticisms on social media for reportedly refusing to pay workers in Bangladesh. The Global Brand Group, responsible for their clothing line even canceled its ongoing orders and cut workers in both Los Angeles and Bangladesh, reports Showbiz Cheatsheet. The decision has affected as many as 50,000 workers, most of whom are women and are ineligible to receive government assistance. [1]his sparked a social media protest in Bangladesh with people boycotting their products to commenting "#PayUp" on Kylie's social media posts. It is also reported that after massive protest all such comments were deleted. [2] Nafis Kazi (talk) 13:10, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: WP:NOTNEWS. "Huge criticism" fails WP:NPOV, and this all seems very WP:UNDUE. Maybe, and again maybe, if this was reduced to one sentence, this could go on. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 02:06, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Kylie Jenner under fire for failure to pay Bangladeshi workers amid Covid-19". Dhaka Tribune. Dhaka Tribune. Retrieved 2 July 2020.
  2. ^ "Kylie Jenner under fire for 'not paying' apparel workers in Bangladesh". bdnews24. bdnews24. 25 June 2020. Retrieved 2 July 2020.

Caitlyn

it still says bruce under parents please change that to caitlyn — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:242:4100:F200:88D6:8109:DF1E:CEB3 (talk) 00:07, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 Done Changed infobox parameter value to current article title per MOS:GENDERID and WP:BLP. See also the notices at Talk:Caitlyn Jenner Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:21, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Change the partners

Kylie Jenner (Hughes) is not with Travis Scott.

Please change this!!! Donte~Knowone (talk) 00:53, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Edit request: Swap order of "Bruce" and "Caitlyn"

Small suggestion: Underneath the Early Life section, instead of saying "Bruce Jenner (now Caitlyn Jenner)", it should say "Caitlyn Jenner (formerly Bruce Jenner)". Caitlyn is her actual name now, so I think it would make more sense to have it come first. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueroses94 (talk • contribs) 17:09, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2021

1. Use of slang phrase 'hook up' should be changed to 'romantically involved'. Affected sentences is "In 2019, Woods hooked up with Tristan Thompson" which should be changed to "In 2019, Woods was romantically involved with Tristan Thompson".

2. Use of slang word 'gear' should be changed to 'equipment'. Affected sentence is "Jenner also donated $1 million to buy face masks, face shields, and other protective gear for health-care professionals who work on the front lines." which should be changed to "Jenner also donated $1 million to buy face masks, face shields, and other protective equipment for health-care professionals who work on the front lines." 5.71.76.92 (talk) 15:44, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: Its not meant this here 'hook up' means here to meet or begin to work with another person or other people:. See Cambridge dictionary Run n Fly (talk) 15:53, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 July 2021

Hey, I am a user of Wikipedia, and I would like the suggestion of you guys to improve the feed about kylie Jenner. It is just the case that a lot of information about her is not really expressed in detail, things which are more real are not expressed. And according to my point of view, such things need to be changed. It is a humble request to let me make changes about her Bio-Data, moreover, it is the case that Kylie has under gone a lot of surgeries and many other social engineering stuff, which I can edit and improve from the point of view of public not kylie herself Mayanksaini9255 (talk) 06:33, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. Melmann 07:44, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

rmnol

ur mkm 69.40.200.10 (talk) 17:10, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 December 2021

Add Category:Kylie Jenner to Category site. KylieAndKendallfan (talk) 15:28, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

 Done Curbon7 (talk) 05:10, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 24 August 2020 and 16 October 2020. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Emilywillingham.

Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT (talk) 01:56, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 February 2022

Kylie jenner has two children: Stormi and Wolf Webster 85.65.163.5 (talk) 20:11, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. The infobox makes it clear she has two children. Most often, we do not include the names of non-notable children in articles. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:14, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

"Self-made billionaire"

Posting here half because this article is controversial and half because I know next to nothing about Jenner or her affiliates. Should we state in Wikipedia voice, in the lead, According to Forbes, in 2019, Jenner's net worth was estimated at US$1 billion, making her, at age 21, the world's youngest self-made billionaire as of March 2019? (Or something to that effect.) A cursory search indicates this statement is exceptionally controversial, with roughly equal quality news sources taking a stance, and most neutrally presenting it as an argument. I've changed it to something that I think sounds fairer. Ovinus (talk) 02:27, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 April 2022

I want to change her net worth thats wrong as they said its $1B US .

I want to change her net worth thats wrong as they said its $1B US . Navjot Singh Ramgarhia (talk) 14:52, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Kylie Jenner

A self-made millionaire 41.116.61.135 (talk) 18:08, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Kylie Kristen Jenner (born August 10, 1997)[2] is an American media personality, socialite, and businesswoman. She starred in the E! reality television series Keeping Up with the Kardashians from 2007 to 2021 and is the founder and owner of cosmetic company Kylie Cosmetics. She is the second-most-followed person on Instagram.

Kylie Kristen Jenner (born August 10, 1997)[2] is an American media personality, socialite, and businesswoman. She starred in the E! reality television series Keeping Up with the Kardashians from 2007 to 2021 and is the founder and owner of cosmetic company Kylie Cosmetics. She is the second-most-followed person on Instagram. 185.24.62.84 (talk) 14:35, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 December 2022

The profile photo of Kylie Jenner 41.113.159.248 (talk) 12:34, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. 💜  melecie  talk - 14:19, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Kylie Jenner and new baby "Wolf"

It has ce to the attention of media and speculation of Kylie and her new born baby "Wolf" Webster. Kylie has not posted any picture of her baby which contains his face and what I've been speculating is that maybe Kylie wants to keep the suspense of her child's face from social media, not for privacy reasons, but for clout of media attention. We all know if she posts a photo of her child containing his face, it would gain ten's of millions of like maybe possibly surpassing the egg photo on Instagram, because Jenner has reacted sourly in the past about the egg surpassing her most like photo and at the time the most liked photo on Instagram itself. 41.113.159.248 (talk) 12:41, 12 December 2022 (UTC) Ewwwww — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:196:4601:8E10:C8D3:9561:1273:9111 (talk) 21:00, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Friendship with Jordyn Woods

It was alleged that Jordyn Woods Cheated It was not proven therefore it is incorrect to state that as a reason It should read It was alleged Jaezel (talk) 15:01, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Partner Changed from Travis Scott to Bad Bunny

Recent revelations have shown that Kylie Jenner is with Bad Bunny now and no longer with Travis Scott. I requesting to edit this fact into this page. 123MTece (talk) 21:40, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

No RS and wrong Jenner. WikiVirusC(talk) 17:46, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 June 2023

In the first paragraph of the article - last sentence, it says, "She is the fourth-most-followed person on Instagram." She is, in fact, currently the fifth-most-followed person on Instagram, per the following article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-followed_Instagram_accounts. Please change "She is the fourth-most-followed person on Instagram." to "She is the fifth-most-followed person on Instagram." Fatplatapus (talk) 22:59, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

 Done M.Bitton (talk) 23:10, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 October 2023

Jordyn Woods never cheated with Tristan Thomas. That is an accusation that was never proven. 2607:FEA8:4520:7830:C930:1B4F:E92B:735C (talk) 20:38, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

 Not done The statement in the article is based on the People magazine article used as a reference. If you have a different reliable published source, please provide it here.
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