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The Kim appears to be a joke!!!

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I have found 4 occurences of 異斯夫 and 0 of 金異斯夫 in the Biographies Section of http://www.khaan.net/history/samkooksagi/sagi4150.htm. Idem, 0 occurences of 金異斯夫 in http://www.khaan.net/history/samkooksagi/sagi0304.htm, while 7 of 異斯夫 (and none of 金苔宗). Therefore

Although frequently referred to as "Isabu", his family name is written as Kim in the Samguk Sagi

as stated by User:Visviva seems surprising. In ko:, we have 이사부(異斯夫, 생몰년 미상) 또는 김태종(金苔宗)은, i.e. he was a 異 (with given name 斯夫) and was sometimes called 金苔宗. By the way, romanisation Yi Sabu is not so clear, since it would be interpreted as 李 Sabu, i.e. a not so 미상 name. Using Li Sabu would be weird ? What else can we do? Pldx1 (talk) 23:22, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 13 August 2019

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The result of the move request was: Moved. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:14, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]



Kim IsabuIsabu – His surname is uncertain. According to Samguk sagi, he is four generations of Maripgan Naemul who king of Gim dynasty in Silla, but according to Samguk yusa, his surname is Bak. So, we should be write well-known name "Isabu" only. Garam (talk) 13:14, 13 August 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:55, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Post-move cleanup

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  • removed move discussion hatnote this was actually done by a bot, which created an editing collision error which did not resolve as a conflict
  • removed note about Korean family name hatnote
  • revised leading sentence
  • NOTE - someone will need to properly revise the infobox as I don't have sufficient knowledge to do that.
  • NOTE - there are also some references to "Kim Isabu" in the article text which need to be revised.
  • NOTE - also, might want to include a passage related to alt-name "Kim Isabu" if encyclopedic.
  • revised the defaultsort key for the page
  • revised wikidata item by changing label to "Isabu" and adding an alias "Kim Isabu".

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:26, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]