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I think the article has been cleaned up, should the 'clean up' tag now be removed? Rangeley 22:43, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No. There are several parts that i think have been really embelleshed. For example: "he leader of this resistance (according to the Israeli police), Moshe Leshem, was holding up an Israeli Flag, and he was blasted directly with the blue soap, along with his flag. For a moment it looked as though it would slip through his fingers, but he held on and symbolically waved the now blue flag to rally the protesters further."

Apetimberlale 01:43, 1 April 2006

Watch the video of it. Its not embellishing. [1] Rangeley 23:25, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures from Kfar Darom

I took some pictures from Kfar Darom in 1999/2000. If you'd like to use them feel free. Road with bridge Road with bridge 2 walls of Kfar Darom Unfortunately there are no pictures from inside the settlement because the guards didn't let me enter. --Soylentyellow (talk) 23:07, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Occupy" vs. "Recapture"

One of the sentences in the article currently refers to "Israel's victory in the Six-Day War in 1967, and its subsequent occupation of the Gaza Strip". I changed "occupation" to "recapture", but this was reverted with the comment "Undid revision 468299477 by Jkshapiro (talk) that isnt clarifying anything, and nothing was "recaptured".

I believe it's a matter of the historical record that the Gaza Strip was part of the section of the Palestinian Mandate that was apportioned for Israel, that it was captured by Egypt in the 1948 war, and that it was recaptured by Israel in 1967. Is this incorrect?

Since the Gaza Strip was not empty, I don't think "occupation" is the right kind of verbiage for the situation. Jkshapiro (talk) 21:40, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The entirety of the Gaza Strip was allocated to the Arab state in the partition plan, not to Israel (see the map here). Where are you getting this idea that it was apportioned for Israel? Also, occupied does not mean that it simply empty land (though that is a type of occupation), but that it was taken and held under belligerent occupation. nableezy - 21:44, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nableezy is technically wrong, but I think it would be generally misleading to say recapture of the Gaza Strip since Israel held it for a relatively short period of time of a few weeks in end of 48 to the beginning of 49, and a relatively long time ago. In contrast, Kfar Darom was certainly recaptured. --Shuki (talk) 23:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How am I technically wrong? The entire Gaza Strip was in the territory allocated to the Arab state. nableezy - 01:27, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you want to go in that direction? By your logic, the entire Turkish 'Palestine' was originally allocated to be the Jewish State so Judea and Samaria were recaptured in 1967? Israeli did in fact occupy Gaza for a several weeks so in fact, it was recaptured in 1967. --Shuki (talk) 11:07, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All of Palestine was never "allocated" to be a Jewish state. But the user said it's a matter of the historical record that the Gaza Strip was part of the section of the Palestinian Mandate that was apportioned for Israel. That is simply untrue. I am unfamiliar with a place called Judea and Samaria. If you mean the eastern portion of the occupied Palestinian territories, that too was allocated, almost in its entirety (not the area around Jerusalem), to the Arab state. The sentence is discussing the establishment of a military outpost, which was done not because it was once "recaptured", but because it was, and remained through that point, occupied territory. nableezy - 14:14, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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