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Martin O'Neill

I do believe that O'Neill tried to keep Phillip's at the club and wanted him to play for his aston villa side. I do not feel that O'Neill's arrival hastened the transfer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.96.11.55 (talk) 16:55, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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  • would love some help in trying to remember who he used to play as a striker with while at Baldock Town, and Watford.

i remember with BTFC he must have played with Glen Russell, and Gary Roberts. who else was on the books?

was it Nathan Lowdes at Watford?


  • I think the following sentence is not NPOV:

Unfairly, it seems, he was never given a full ninety minutes for his country. I am going to remove the 'Unfairy, it seems' part --cheungie 08:23, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sunderland

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Just lately, this section has developed from a reasonably balanced summary of his career to virtual hero-worship. Expressions such as "most feared", "ill-fated", "more than likely", "scored a beauty", "predicted to struggle", "free-scoring goal machine", "opened the floodgates", "rightfully cemented his place", "proven Premiership class", "rumoured to have asked for a transfer", "a total disaster", "Southampton capitalised on Sunderland's need...", "paltry return", "full possession of unbelievable talent", "Phillips revealed that 3 transfer requests..."etc. all fail the NPOV test or need backing up with verifiable citations. Daemonic Kangaroo 13:48, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • a lot of the material above has now been removed. Seeing as Sunderland fans know a lot about Phillips' time at Sunderland, a little bit of bias would be expected. If anything else remaining is too biased please say :)
I've removed some of the PoV but there is still a bit of work to be done. We need some evidence... who says that Phillips was a hero at Sunderland? What club/fan awards did he win? Who says that his partnership with Niall Quinn was one of the most feared? Who feared them? Is it relevant that a Newcastle fanzine predicted Sunderland would struggle in the top-flight - are they really likely to say anything else? Rodney Marsh may be more neutral but we need a reference for his opinion. Can we get some more references for the various aspects of Phillip's game that are being waxed lyrical about? --Jameboy (talk) 19:10, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sourcing

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I've re-added the Early career and Watford sections pretty well unaltered, and tried to add contemporary sources, or as contemporary as I can find. Recent summaries of his career progression are likely sourced from Wikipedia anyway... This is a link to the pre-cleanup version. Have listed below the various sections: perhaps people could sign for any section they intend to start work on, to avoid duplication of effort. As the date formats used in the refs are currently split about 50-50 between ISO and dmy format, I've been standardising on dmy.

  • Early career: now sourced
  • Watford: now sourced
  • Sunderland: now sourced
  • Southampton: now sourced
  • Aston Villa: now sourced
  • West Brom: now sourced
  • Birmingham: now sourced
  • Blackpool: now sourced
  • Palace: now sourced
  • International: now sourced

cheers, Struway2 (talk) 09:27, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Style of play

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Seeing as you two are doing this, and the first word that comes into my head when someone says "Kevin Phillips" is "poacher", I'll just drop these here. [1] [2] Oldelpaso (talk) 20:07, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

International career statistics

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The article and the Infobox disagree on his career with England. Article says 9 appearance, no goals; Infobox says 8 appearances, one goal. Couldn't find a definite answer in the cited references (although may have missed it on skimming through) but does anyone have a reference for which is correct so it can be corrected? 92.238.190.190 (talk) 11:14, 28 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The goal in the infobox was vandalism that had gone unnoticed. The 9 appearances in the Career statistics table came from totalling his England "B" appearance in with his 8 for the senior team, which is rather misleading. I've separated them out into two little tables with references attached to the table captions. The englandstats.com ref lists all 8 of his senior apps. Thanks for noticing, and hope it's clearer now? cheers, Struway2 (talk) 11:57, 28 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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