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Big POV problems (POV check)

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This article suffers from the inevitable consequences of being written primarily by Blackpool FC fans. As those who have most interest and knowledge about the club and its chairman, that's not necessarily a bad thing, but I feel that this article has serious POV issues, due to the unpopularity of the Oyston family amongst said fans. Before my rewrite of the first paragraph today, the article started "Karl Samuel Oyston (born 20 February 1968) is an English businessman and the son of convicted rapist Owen Oyston." It is not fair to link Karl to his father crimes so prominently in this way, as several other editors have noted. Having read the rest of the article, there are plenty of other examples of negative writing about the Oyston family. I have therefore nominated this article for a POV check. I am a member of the Oyston Family and if you dont remove this I will sue you all --Tom dl (talk) 17:58, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

With 97 references, it will be hard to claim POV. - NewTestLeper79 talk 20:01, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The number of references an article has doesn't necessarily indicate how neutral the POV is. If, for example, most references were selectively chosen to portray the subject in a negative light, the article could still be deemed to have a non-neutral POV. Regardless, the talk page of an article shouldn't be used to speculate on the outcome of a POV review. If you have suggestions for how the article could better obtain NPOV, please note them here! --Tom dl (talk) 22:22, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
There are sentences in his favour, such as fees that are actually spent on players. If there are positive articles about him on the internet, they can obviously be included here, but we shouldn't be removing any that are backed up with references, since that is obviously censorship. - NewTestLeper79 talk 13:25, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'd expect any article on Karl Oyston to include more critical comments and references to controversial actions than good ones, but this version goes to ludicrous extremes. Multiple sentences - more detail than any signings Oyston actually sanctioned - on how well Rickie Lambert did a decade after he was released by Blackpool as a teenager, a decision probably made without Oyston's involvement? A line about Oyston having the temerity to go on holiday during the football season? Linking to 97 sources (many of them tabloids deemed unsuitable as Wikipedia references) doesn't mean an article isn't clearly written to support a point of view, and this is one of the most biased articles I've seen on WP Dtellett (talk) 19:08, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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This article appears to be mainly about Blackpool FC, not Oyston. As much as I might sympathise with disaffected supporters of the club, it needs to be trimmed. - Sitush (talk) 07:02, 7 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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