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No evidence of name of Ka'ahumanu III

I just reread Kamakau's Ruling Chiefs to make sure, and I find no evidence that Kekauluohi was ever called Ka'ahumanu III. Please provide a citation or I will change the title of the article. I removed one external link that did not have anything to do with her. Mahalo. Makana Chai (talk) 06:53, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well it's been two years. I was going to do something along that line. I think we should move Kaahumanu II to Kinau, and Kaahumanu III to Kekāuluohi, and Kaahumanu IV to Victoria Kamamalu. But every link and in other articles that mentions Kaahumanu 2-4 must be removed. I'll get to it later. Some help would be appreciated.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 06:27, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that confused me when going through the old Hawaiian newspapers I decided to google something on Kekauluohi but was confused because I saw the name of Kaahumanu and didn't want to click on it but my browser already indicated that I had clicked on it before. I must've clicked on it when it was Kekauluohi, not Kaahumanu III. I'm not sure who decided that all the Kuhina Nui would be Kaahumanu I, II, III, etc. --Mamoahina (talk) 06:14, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

They (as in the Kaahumanu I, II, III, IV) were used for Kinau, and sometimes, but rarely, for Kekauluohi and Victoria Kamamalu.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 06:50, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think you meant that they were styled that way, not that they were actually used very often. I commented on the other page about how they never signed that way.--Mamoahina (talk) 22:39, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah not common but actually real names, there are evidences of these names. But we should use the most common names, so I move these articles to these titles. The oldest source I can find that called her Kaahumanu III was 1843 in Sheldon Dibble's history of the Sandwich Islands. Other sources actually called Victoria Kamamalu Kaahumanu III instead.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 02:37, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Somethings

Here it seems that the missionaries called her a woman of low birth with no more power than any common natives. I though it'll interesting to place here in case anybody wanted to add it to the article.

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An important source but sadly no specific page number listed for claims. Here is a current link to it.

, who "fondled her as if she were a feather lei from the precious mamo bird."^[1]^: 26

--Mark Miller (talk) 07:39, 14 July 2021 (UTC) [reply]

References

^ Katharine Luomala, University of Hawaii (1987). "Reality and Fantasy: The Foster Child in Hawaiian Myths and Customs". Pacific Studies. Brigham Young University Hawaii Campus. pp. 1–45. Archived from the original on March 4, 2016.

Son Davida

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http://hmha.missionhouses.org/exhibits/show/aliiletters/item/3041 (undated, conjecture of archivist, could be Kalakaua as well)
http://hmha.missionhouses.org/files/original/a39de2b520141110862030bb56ad40ef.pdf (definitely referring to Kalakaua, referred to as David instead of Davida)

KAVEBEAR (talk) 17:23, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[Luomala-1] Katharine Luomala, University of Hawaii (1987). "Reality and Fantasy: The Foster Child in Hawaiian Myths and Customs". Pacific Studies. Brigham Young University Hawaii Campus. pp. 1–45. Archived from the original on March 4, 2016.

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