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Junior College of Bergen County or Bergen Junior College?

The following is from a discussion on my talk page Rublamb (talk) 11:58, 14 January 2024 (UTC):[reply]

Should the article for Junior College of Bergen County be renamed to Bergen Junior College, which seems to be the most commonly used name for the school, as seen at this source among many others. Alansohn (talk) 02:06, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Alansohn: That is a great question and one that I asked myself. The college went by Junior College of Bergen County and then changed its name to Bergen College (but did not change its name legally). It appears that Bergen Junior College was a common name, but not one that was used by the college itself. All print sources seem to have ignored the name change to Bergen College (which is why I did not use that for the article title). I have tried to think of another example where we have named the article after a common name that was not officially used by the institution. Would it be like calling the UNC-CH article Carolina? I was hoping to get some feedback from someone associated with the college. In the meantime, I did a redirect for BJC, but can easily delete that and move the article if that is what makes the most sense. @ElKevbo, what do you think? Rublamb (talk) 02:41, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It seems that all of the existing mentions to the institution in articles used "Bergen Junior College' and it seems the be the common name used in contemporaneous sources. Not a critical issue, but we should probably come to a decision. Alansohn (talk) 03:37, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Alansohn: Following is an analysis of the article's sources. There are 9 uses of JCBC vs. 2 uses of BJC and 2 uses of BC. Thus, JCBC appears to be the correct name for this article. Rublamb (talk) 12:11, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1. No name

2. JCBC

3. No name

4. JCBC

5. No name

6. JCBC

7. JCBC

8. BJC changed to BC

9. JCBC changed to BC

10. JCBC

11. JCBC

12. BJC

13. JCBC (modern source)

14. JCBC

15. No name

This is a reasonable question. But I'm not going to lose any sleep if we can't get this exactly "right" since the institution closed so long ago and doesn't appear to have ever been tremendously large or influential so sources are likely scarce and hard-to-find. We do need to ensure that there is a redirect from the title that we don't use so readers can get to this article no matter which one they begin with. ElKevbo (talk) 00:33, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ElKevbo: Thanks for confirming my thoughts. I have a list of redlinked defunct colleges that I am working on. Usually, the last name used by the institution is the way to go, treating it like the article existed when the school went defunct. But I also look at the redlinks and the sources, and added redirects for the other names used by the institution. Honestly, I was surprised that anyone cared other than the editors who collaborated on list of articles for creation. I don't mind moving this article, but I did use the name tha "felt" right for this college. Rublamb (talk) 14:24, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]