Talk:James Stevens (Australian politician)

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previously deleted content

There was a previous article at James Stevens (Australian politician) which was deleted in 2015 but may have relevant content that could be restored now, [1] --Scott Davis ^Talk 14:41, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have filed a request at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion#James Stevens (Australian politician) and will then propose to merge that article (which had 100 edits) in to this one. --Scott Davis ^Talk 15:19, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The old article was restored, so I have done a proper content merge to this one, and improved the referencing a bit. --Scott Davis ^Talk 15:03, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 9 August 2019

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The result of the move request was: Moved to James Stevens (Australian politician) per consensus. (non-admin closure) – Ammarpad (talk) 06:59, 17 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

James William Stevens → James Stevens (politician) – Unilaterally moved against normal disambiguation practice; see WP:MIDDLENAME and WP:NCPDAB. Frickeg (talk) 23:12, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose James Stevens (politician) because there are Wikipedia entries for other politicians named "James Stevens", but support main title header mentioned above under section header "previously deleted content", James Stevens (Australian politician), per WP:COMMONNAME, since there is no indication of subject being referenced by his middle name. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 03:27, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Happy with this as nominator. Frickeg (talk) 13:55, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support James Stevens (Australian politician). -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:13, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Asleep during religious freedom vote

Following a late night sitting of Parliamentary to vote on the Morrison Government's Religious Discrimination Bill, former Senator Cory Bernardi claimed on Twitter that Stevens was found "comatose" and "soiled" in his office while Parliament was sitting.[12] Bernardi further claimed that the door to his office was locked and security had to be called to intervene.[13] Stevens admitted being asleep and failing to show up to vote on the Religious Discrimination Bill. Parliamentary colleague, Bert van Manem, denied that Stevens had soiled himself.[14]

Public allegations of misconduct by former members of Parliament are credible sources. The identification of Stevens as the MP at the centre of the allegations is confirmed in reporting for The Adelaide Advertiser and Herald Sun. Zizek Rocks (talk) 00:05, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You need to demonstrate 2 things before this incident can be included in the article, 1) it happened, by having it appear in reliable sources and 2) that it is noteworthy beyond parliamentary rumour. At the moment the only source that it was Stevens was Twitter (not reliable) and I am not convinced that it is noteworthy in the same way that there are dozens of stories of drunk MPs that have no business being in the articles.Playlet (talk) 00:47, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's been reported on in numerous outlets now and the fact he was asleep (or otherwise unconscious) when he was meant to be in the Chamber voting on a bill to deliver a key election promises goes to his core function as a legislator. Your position is untenable. Zizek Rocks (talk) 01:02, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

They were voting in the middle of the night. The fact that someone was asleep in the middle of the night is hardly noteworthy enough for its own section. At most it is worth mentioning in a short sentance. The statement about him soiling himself is sourced on Twitter, and Stevens was not mentioned in the article. If you want it included in the article you are going to need better sources.Playlet (talk) 01:15, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]