Talk:Invensys

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Some factual inaccuracies

Added 14 Aug 2019 - The group of companies omits the APV division which was acquired by Siebe just before merging with BT&R. APV designed/sold food, beverage & chemical processing equipment and systems. It was a significant piece of the Invensys pie from an engineering & sales standpoint, and yes, I'm a former employee of APV. APV kept it's brand & operations under Invensys and was in the Intelligent Automation division with Foxboro. Invensys did however begin divesting and selling off pieces of APV in the late 90's and forward. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.13.136.2 (talk) 14:31, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Full disclosure - I work in the Communications department of Invensys plc, and so will not directly edit any page relating to Invensys, to avoid any perceived conflict of interest. However, the page as it stands contains some factual inaccuracies the correction of which would improve the accuracy and utility of the article.

I would be happy to identify those and suggest sources where more recent data is available - for example, the recently-published Annual Report and Accounts, which is prodcued by Invensys plc but which is audited by independent auditors.

I hope this approach follows good practice - if not, please help me to understand what I should be doing. I am following my understanding of the policies and guidelines of wikipedia with this post. I can also be contacted directly at web@invensys.com.

--InvComms (talk) 13:46, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see no reason why you cannot edit this page. Wikipedia is designed so the community decides whether there are any issues with POV and/or bias. The where I stand you would seem to be the best placed user to update the changes required in the article. Jamie (talk) 07:57, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Really? That would make things simpler, but I was led to believe that it was not generally advised that people with personal or corporate connections to the subject matter should make direct edits to the page, because others might feel that there is a conflict of interest. I would be very happy to do what I can to correct the content - otherwise I will put corrections into this talk page and let others put them into the article if they are happy with their verification.

InvComms (talk) 10:24, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think you should update the page at home in your spare time because you feel the article contains factual mistakes and you want to make the world a bit better. You should not update the page because you feel that your customers get a picture that you don't want them to get and/or because it's your job to do communications for Invensys.... Ok, the truth is somewhere in between, but you get the picture right? Be accurate and factual, without any emotional/promotional flavours to your text and nobody will have a problem that a change has been done from an Invensys IP-address. I work for Invensys as well and have made additions in the past, I tried to keep the Wikipedia vision in mind while doing so, not the Invensys one. Marbl3s (talk) 20:49, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've made some edits for correctness - the financial numbers, which were for Q4 07 rather than FY08, the employee numbers. There were some errors in corporate structure - Wonderware was identified as a part of Controls rather than Process Systems, for example. Invensys Controls was identified as selling Firex products, which are no longer produced by Invensys. Also, Invensys Rail Systems is now called Invensys Rail Group - I changed the name and the wikipedia link in line with this. I haven't changed any editorial on the business itself. InvComms (talk) 16:00, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Henriksson salary irrelevance

I have removed the citation to Ulf Henriksson's salary and bonus. It is irrelevant to the article, if needed it should be placed in his personal article. A quick scan of other company articles shows a distict lack of citation for the CEO salary and/or bonuses. Salaries and/or bonus details should only be included when relevant, i.e. banker bonuses. Jamie (talk) 10:04, 16 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Acquired

Groupe Schneider has announced that it will acquire Invensys: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/07/31/uk-schneider-invensys-idUKBRE96T12P20130731 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.115.67.2 (talk) 20:55, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing organization of list items under Operations

The text under the headings of Operations states "Invensys is organised into four main segments: Software, Industrial Automation, Energy Controls and Appliance" yet fails attribute each item in the lists to one of these four segments. If this list of four segments is a divisional structure of the company, giving each product line it's proper attribution would seem appropriate. 64.4.83.82 (talk) 21:43, 14 October 2014 (UTC) RALG[reply]

Rather Incomplete

There was no such thing as "Invensys Rail" until vulture capitalists purchased Safetran Systems out of Rancho Cucamonga, California, United States after which the Safetran name was changed. I'm not sure whether some of the extant history and background is accurate since it contains marketing propaganda about an imagined division of Invensys which did not actually exist, as such.

The vulture capitalists raided the intellectual property, such as it was, and made a show of pretending to continue to have the surviving Safetran employees produce products yet the effort to outsource the software development to China and then India -- though a shoddy company with an unsavory history called Cognizent -- either failed badly or was intended to fail.

By the time that Siemens acquired the dregs of Safetran, all that Siemens acquired were some surviving employees who were willing to relocate to Kentucky and a few other places, and legacy products that few-to-zero rail -- passenger or cargo -- would care to use.

Part of the background was Meteorcomm which was established by a number of Class 1 railroads to develop the inter-operability communications backbone designs which Safetran (now known as "Invensys Rail") was not a part of, allowing Safetran to implement the first Positive Train Control wayside interface unit in the country yet lacking the various layers of interoperability which was designed by Meteorcomm, making Safetran products increasingly obsolete, in the larger picture of the nation's rail infrastructure.

The extant article's history is slim and somewhat inaccurate yet I do not see a serious and legitimate means of making it more accurate since much of the history of the so-called "Invensys Rail" is not documented outside of corporate wishful thinking and proclamations of bigger things to come which never transpired.

I might make an attempt to flesh-out the background if testable references and citations can be acquired to cover some of the history, yet with Safetran defunct and the not-really-ever-existed "Invensys Rail" officially defunct (and with Seimens not caring any anything revolving around Safetran) it's likely doomed to fail. SoftwareThing (talk) 18:39, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]