Talk:Brooklyn–Battery Tunnel

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Date	Process	Result
July 9, 2018	Good article nominee	Listed
August 9, 2019	Good topic candidate	Not promoted

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on April 26, 2018.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that when it opened, the Brooklyn–Battery Tunnel in New York City was the second-longest underwater vehicular tunnel in the world?

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Longest continuous underwater vehicular tunnel

In the article it says "the longest continuous underwater vehicular tunnel in the world". Is this true? There are many underwater tunnels that are longer than the 2,779 meters of the Brooklyn-Battery Tunnel, see the Bømlafjordtunnel for example. ZorroIII 22:53, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I believe this is in accurate, because it only makes sense that a tunnel built with modern technology would be able to be longer (and deeper). This needs to be edited. ~~jstew 12 October 2006

No, I read that in a book of facts...its true Jgcarter 16:19, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

According to the book "The Works" by Kate Ascher, published in 2005 by Penguin Books, on page 52, "When it opened in 1950, the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel was, at 9,117 feet, the longest continuous underwater vehicular tunnel in the world—a title it still holds." This is clearly wrong (see, e.g. the Chunnel), but may have been published in multiple sources. 2604:2000:6AA3:3D00:8828:790D:915D:9616 (talk) 20:28, 17 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Organizing the Article.

The article is currently without sections to it. This article would benefit greatly from being broken up into its Intro, History, Specs, and its usage in Pop Culture, and for that matter, some areas could benefit from being more detailed. For example. it does not state what the design material was among other things. If anyone's willing to organize and expand this article, it'll work wonders, but please, try to verify your material ahead of time. It lacks in sources as it is. Alan --24.184.184.177 21:34, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Name change

Hello, shouldn't the article name now be "Hugh L. Carey" tunnel? If it is officially named that than should the title be the official name? All the maps say HLC tunnel. @Epicgenius: AmericanAir88 (talk) 00:29, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@AmericanAir88: Yeah, that's technically the official name. However, the Brooklyn-Battery Tunnel name is the most commonly used name, and the official Carey name is already mentioned in the article. I think this is the reason why Triborough Bridge wasn't moved to "Robert F. Kennedy Bridge", or Queensboro Bridge to "Ed Koch Queensboro Bridge", etc.epicgenius (talk) 12:59, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Epicgenius: I agree but in the Triborough and Queensboro bridge's inbox, the correct name is present. AmericanAir88 (talk) 19:57, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I guess the official name can be placed in the top of the infobox here as well, then. epicgenius (talk) 23:16, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Brooklyn–Battery Tunnel/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Red Phoenix (talk · contribs) 19:17, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be glad to review this one. Having never been to NYC before but being somewhat a road geek myself, this is definitely an article I find very interesting. Let me have a couple of days to fully review the article and put together some comments. Red Phoenix ^talk 19:17, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

From a full reading, this article looks really good so far. Well done. I'll try to take care of some of the more minor things, such as broken parameters in the references, archiving all of the sources to prevent link rot, and some minor copyediting. I do see a couple of things I will need you to address, which I will list in a bit. However, it looks very good and there should be very little in need of action. Red Phoenix ^talk 20:16, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The "Battery" in the tunnel's original name refers to an artillery battery located at that site during New York City's earliest days. - Uh huh, and what's the tunnel's original name? Given the article's name, the "new name" is not clear and this sentence seems ambiguous that there might have been another name. Please rephrase.

I put the word "original" in the wrong place. It was supposed to be "refers to an artillery battery originally...". epicgenius (talk) 21:58, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The system consisted of 53 fans that each had a diameter of 8 feet (2.4 m) - Was it this way during construction or is it still this way? Needs to be more clear.

It is still this way. epicgenius (talk) 21:58, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't feel that we need a subsection for Transportation when it's only one very small paragraph; it could just as easily be handled in the same section without the subheader. I also understand the idea behind linking every bus route to its section in its respective list article, but I would ask you to consider just one link for each article. I would argue that under MOS:DUPLINK, that's all that's really necessary for comprehension of this article.

Done.

The bridge would consist of a six-lane tandem suspension bridge spans - I'm no expert on bridge terminology; is this the right phrasing to end with "spans"?

Well, it would have been two spans, like the western part of the San Francisco–Oakland Bay Bridge. I reworded it. epicgenius (talk) 21:58, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would personally recommend combining the section on tolls with that of the description, since it is so short a section. No reason it can't be handled in describing the tunnel itself.

The tolls are a distinct section in similar articles, such as Lincoln Tunnel, Holland Tunnel, or Queens–Midtown Tunnel. The section's also two paragraphs long, so maybe it could be a subsection. I'll think about it. epicgenius (talk) 21:58, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's actually it. I did a fair bit of copyediting as well, and checked links and sources for reliability, but that's all I've got for you. I'll put us on hold for the time being. Red Phoenix ^talk 20:53, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Red Phoenix: Thanks for the review. I have responded to the issues above. epicgenius (talk) 21:58, 8 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Epicgenius: Looks really good. As it stands about the tolls section, I could see it as one in Lincoln Tunnel and Holland Tunnel, but personally feel it may be a bit WP:UNDUE given the smaller amount of content in this article and Queens–Midtown Tunnel. That being said, I will ask you to consider it but I will not consider it a barrier to GA promotion, as it's not necessarily part of the criteria to evaluation. I will go ahead and promote this article to GA status. Well done! Red Phoenix ^talk 00:17, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tunnel to Towers annual 5k

Would consider adding a section on the annual Steven Siller memorial 5k that travels through the Tunnel every year, attended by thousands. As defined by the organization, "The event symbolizes Stephen Siller’s final footsteps from the foot of the Hugh L. Carey Tunnel (formerly known as the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel) to the Twin Towers Site, and pays homage to the 343 FDNY firefighters, 63 law enforcement officers, and thousands of civilians who lost their lives on September 11, 2001. To date, more than 500,000 people have followed in Stephen’s footsteps". ^[1]

The event shuts the tunnel down to vehicular traffic once a year, serves as a large fundraiser for first responder-related charities, and brings on average about 2000 West Point Cadets to run each year. One issue I see is that the Tunnel to Towers run itself does not have a Wiki, so links would be mostly external.

Note: I am very new to this editing thing, I have reviewed all the editing guidelines but would welcome any feedback or guidance from more experienced editors.Johnnyg206 (talk) 22:20, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://tunnel2towers.org/

Map in infobox shows nothing

There is nothing showing in the space for a map, besides credits to 2 map sources. I reloaded the page but that did not bring a map up. Using a mobile phone at the moment. - - Prairieplant (talk) 04:25, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://tunnel2towers.org/

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