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Semi-protected edit request on 21 September 2024

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add that Kayasth are also kept at the same pedestal as brahmins from the mughal raj to the british raj and were richer and more powerful than them in many cases . reference - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayastha#:~:text=According%20to%20Christian%20Novetzke%2C%20in,status%20of%20CKPs%20as%20Kshatriya. Spirithero (talk) 07:51, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Refer to WP:Citing Wikipedia Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 02:56, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While I do not have access to Reich's 2018 book, I do have access to the study by Nakatsuka et al (2017) that is also cited in this section. Neither that study, nor the methodology explained in the Ancient DNA section, seem to involve any Ancient DNA at all. Instead, they seem to have taken DNA of modern humans and then used their knowledge of evolutionary theory to extrapolate the likely age of the last common ancestors of the individual clades. If we want to keep a separate section for this methodology, I would propose changing the title simply to genetics research or similar, and then also move the reference to the 2016 DNA-based study mentioned at the end of the Jatis section to here. Felix QW (talk) 11:38, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I implemented the changes I mentioned above, as there has ben no further input on this. Felix QW (talk) 09:46, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Skin color

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I was reading encyclopedia articles from the 80s and 90s. It said that people who were higher in the caste system had lighter color skin and people lower on the caste system had darker color skin. It is implied that the caste system is a form of racism. Hope this helps the article.

caste system

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Growth of the caste 2409:4065:C00:C19B:0:0:A6CA:4600 (talk) 18:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Caste system in India???

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The original, correct name of Hinduism is Sanathana Dharma (SD). There is absolutely no such thing asa hierarchical caste system in SD. Varna inSD can be translated as "way of being." There is no hierarchy for varna. These are four essential constituents of any society in the world. The have equal status in SD. SD, now popularly called Hinduism, is around 8000 to 14000 years old (latter is not verifiable scientifically.) So SD has had a minimum of 8000 years to get corrupted. Christianity and Islam, by comparison, have had only 2000 and 2500 years (approximately) to get corrupted. Anyway, in SD, the division of different types of people depended on their varna. If a Kshitriya by birth goes into a teaching profession, he is actually a Brahmin by varna. Likewise, if a Brahmin by birth goes for manual work in a factory, he is a Shudra by varna. Over years this system, which was actually created for understanding how a society functions, became corrupted and became birth ("jathi") oriented, and rigid. Later, it is because of this corruption, some castes were falsely considered "superior". Our Ithihasa (History, as opposed to Mythology) clearly brings out this fact. Avatars like Rama and Krishna were not Brahmins, either by birth or by way of being. Only 2 of the 10 Avatars of Lord Vishnu were actually Brahmins, viz. Vamana and Parashurama. In fact, Parashurama, in His Avatar, became a Kshatriya by varna to destroy the Kahatriyas who were not following Dharma. Many Rishis, some of who were contemporaries of the Ramayana and Mahabharata periods, were not Brahmins. Brahmins were those who considered spirituality and knowledge as supreme and were generally without any means of survival and were dependent on other varnas for sustenance by way of alms. Kshatriyas were those who were generally the rulers or protectors of society. Vaishyas were the traders and owners of property, businesses and wealth who gave sustenance to the other varnas through their business or charity. Shudras were those who did physical work for the other varnas to help them carry out their business (Vaishyas) or protection duty (Kshatriyas). Brahmins generally did their own duties, as they did not have the means to hire help. So, it should be noted that the term "Caste" itself has no place in Indian society, much less the "hierarchy" associated with the term. I request Wikipedia to to correct all references to caste system in India, and set the record straight. The corruption of this is against the principles of Sanathana Dharma. Murali Bhanu (talk) 17:44, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]