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Adding a topic here (even though I believe is more suitable on WT:KO ... anyway but feel free to move this) pertaining to changing newer images (in terms of date) to older images on BLP articles. I observed the WP:STATUSQUO within WP:KO's editors' editing behaviour is to use newer image instead of older image unless the newer image:

is AI enhanced and/or heavily photoshopped
is of a lower resolution and/or quality
has background that is too messy that causes the subject to be hard to see

There may or may not be certain points I missed out regardless the STATUSQUO hasn't really been an issue(s) however as notify, a WP:CONSENSUS is better. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 16:40, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging @Tropicalkitty, @RachelTensions, @Windborne Rider, @Crazycomputers as your did the reversion and also updated the image.

According to RachelTensions on my talk page, the disruptive editing started due to this 2024 image having "veneers" (not visible nor obvious to me, if it even exists) hence @Yolo9090 (blocked 48h as of this comment) edited disruptively. After the back-and-forth silly drama, Tropicalkitty removed that image, RachelTensions then restored to this long-standing image since 2023, and Yolo9090 changed it to this 2022 image, and Crazycomputers restored back the 2023 image.

Hence, lets us get some consensus if we should retain the current 2023 image or update to the older 2022 image or the newer 2024 image, I'm fine with either 3 images as neither falls under the above 3 pointers raised by me earlier in May 2024. I'm asking this as I expected that Yolo9090 continuing their unacceptable behaviour and they may also attempt to change to this image uploaded by them on Commons which is taken from the same source as the 2024 image but obvious not the best quality. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 09:52, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I really don't care as long as it's not a lower quality or AI enhanced image just for the sake of replacing it with something "new".

Aside from her teeth (yes she got veneers in early 2023), the subject's appearance hasn't changed much in the past few years so any good quality photo from 2022/2023/2024 is fine by me as long as it's not a worse image than whatever it's replacing. RachelTensions (talk) 09:58, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looking closer at the 2023 image it does look like it's been AI'd a bit so maybe the 2022 image is best (I like this one, again from 2022, but a bit of a nicer pose) RachelTensions (talk) 10:03, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would go with the image that RachelTensions link above. 𝙹𝚒𝚢𝚊𝚗 忌炎 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 10:06, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RachelTensions @Windborne Rider I don't mind your suggested image either. Let's wait a day or so, if no further comment, I think it would be safe to proceed to change unless your have further concerns like waiting longer or asking for further advice elsewhere on English Wikipedia. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 10:08, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I agree with you. 𝙹𝚒𝚢𝚊𝚗 忌炎 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 10:10, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RachelTensions @Windborne Rider FYI, I had proceeded to change. — 👻🎃 Paper9oll 🎃👻 (🔔 • 📝) 14:29, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW my involvement was mostly to get everyone to the last step of WP:BRD. I don't have a particular opinion on which image should be used. Yolo9090 seems primarily concerned about not choosing an excessively unflattering photo, which I don't think is a bad goal (their behavior being another subject entirely) particularly on a BLP. --Chris | Crazycomputers (talk) 19:43, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Crazycomputers Is there any suggestions on what is the next step be if their behaviour continues after their unblock? I'm asking this in the event after we pushed ahead with changing to the 2022 image suggested and supported above by RachelTensions and further supported by me and Windborne Rider, I believe that this would be considered as a form of consensus hence should they continue their behaviour, we can assumed that it's ignoring consensus. — 👻🎃 Paper9oll 🎃👻 (🔔 • 📝) 07:27, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That would be disruptive editing / edit warring and could be reported at the appropriate venue. I would definitely caution you not to edit war along with them. If they don't get the message after you've reverted once, bring in other editors via a noticeboard such as WP:ANEW or feel free to ping me and I'll take a look myself. --Chris | Crazycomputers (talk) 18:14, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Crazycomputers Noted, thanks for the advices. — 👻🎃 Paper9oll 🎃👻 (🔔 • 📝) 18:18, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]