Talk:Ibrāhīm al-Fazārī

This article was nominated for merging with Muḥammad ibn Ibrāhīm al-Fazārī on 7 May 2023. The result of the discussion (permanent link) was to merge the articles.

Arab

He was an arab: Scott L. Montgomery. Science in Translation: movements of knowledge through cultures and time. p. 81. "[one] of the astrologers consulted on the propitious moment for the foundation of Baghdad was Muhammad ibn Ibraheem al-Fazari, the section of an ancient Arab family of al-Kufa." Jidan 00:46, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sources by Mardavich

The source you provided from google book search says (you posted this): "...by the time the Persian geographer Al-Fazari was writing in AD 773-774...". Not enough. If you posted the whole passage (which you can't, becasue you got this from book google) we might know if it's really meant here Ibrahim Al-Fazari, since he wasn't a geographer. Jidan 13:21, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I already replied to you on the other talk page. Who else could that be referring to? There were only two famous Al-Fazaris at that time, Ibrahim and Mohammad, the father and son--Mardavich 14:06, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He is the grand son of the sahabi samra ibn jundub Al-Farazi سمرة بن جندب الفزاري

He was an Arab;he is the grand son of the sahabi سمرة بن جندب الفزاري Sumra ibn Jundub Al-Fazari [1] [2][3][4][5].Therefore how come he is Persian???!!!. I’ll remove the word Persian from both articles (Him and his father) since thier grand father is well-known as Arab, in addition he is not related to Iran because simply he lived in Iraq.--Aziz1005 17:51, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry Aziz, but you're going to have to provide better sources than al-eman.com. I could provide Persian sources if I wanted, but it's better to use third-party sources instead, like we do here. According to the source by (Ervin Lewis and Mildred Bain), he was Persian. Khoi khoi 01:43, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yea but this sahabi is well-known and the surename proves that.also al-eman is a library and those sources are books for early medieval writers such as Ibn Khaldun and aldhabi.thanks--Aziz1005 20:45, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Khoikhoi can you please read his son(Muhammad al-Fazari) talk page which provides better third-party sources :).--Aziz1005 20:49, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He was a descendant of Samara bin Jundub, who is known to have been a companion of prophet Mohammad. In the early years of islam many arab famalies migrated to southern and south western Iraq, mainly to the two cities of Kufa and Basra. It is highly probable that Ibrāhīm al-Fazārī came from the city of Kufa. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.114.207.131 (talk) 20:18, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]