Talk:Holly Steam Combination Company

Holly Steam Combination Company was one of the Social sciences and society good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
August 22, 2020	Good article nominee	Listed
February 26, 2023	Good article reassessment	Delisted

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on January 23, 2016.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the Holly Steam Combination Company was the first commercially successful steam heating company for district heating from a central distribution station?

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Holly Steam Combination Company/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 20:37, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Shall review this article. MWright96 (talk) 20:37, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Lead

"was an American company that was the first steam heating company" - try to avoid repetition of the same word in the same sentence

Done--Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:29, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mention who Birdsill Holly was for the uninitiated

Done--Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:29, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps expand the lead to state what happened to the company in its final years

Done--Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:29, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

History

"Birdsill Holly began working on a district steam system" - same issue as the second point in the lead section

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:49, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

" The following year Holly then constructed" - I don't believe the word "then" is needed here

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:49, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"The system of 3 miles of supply" - how about using the ^{[convert: needs a number]} template on the text in bold?

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:49, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"This heating system had a greater energy efficiency than the method then in use of individual boilers to heat individual buildings. The new heating system concept attracted the attention of interested investors." - consider merging these two sentences together

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:15, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"This heating system had a greater energy efficiency than the method then in use of individual boilers" - method of using

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:15, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"The Holly heating systems first used wood insulated pipe.[9] The steam was distributed using high duty pumping engines.[10]" - perhaps merging these two sentences might help matters?

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:15, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"He ultimately obtained over 150 patents by 1888 refining steam heat techniques and methods of distribution." - the text in bold might be better off placed at the start or end of this sentence

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:15, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikilink Brush Swan Electric Light Company to the relevant article

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:15, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"By 1894 the Holly steam systems had been installed in over" - more than

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:15, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe this source [1] has additional information that can be inserted into the article?

Done Expanded article. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:23, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Demise

"The Holly Steam Combination Company was reorganized in 1882. It became then the American District Steam Company (ADSC)." - these two sentences could be better off merged as one

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:39, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

"Heating and ventilating magazine Company" - the words in bold should begin with capital letters

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:39, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Will put the review on hold to allow the nominator to address/query the points raised above. MWright96 (talk) 11:03, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@MWright96: - All issues have been addressed. Can you take another look. Thanks. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:39, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Doug Coldwell: Now promoting to GA class. I've made changes to the new source added into the article. MWright96 (talk) 16:40, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright contributor investigation and Good article reassessment

This article is part of Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/20210315 and the Good article (GA) drive to reassess and potentially delist over 200 GAs that might contain copyright and other problems. An AN discussion closed with consensus to delist this group of articles en masse, unless a reviewer opens an independent review and can vouch for/verify content of all sources. Please review Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/February 2023 for further information about the GA status of this article, the timeline and process for delisting, and suggestions for improvements. Questions or comments can be made at the project talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:36, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]