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Per the request at WP:MHA, I have reviewed this article against the B class criteria. I don't believe it is up to that standard yet. I have the following suggestions for improvement:

a history section should be included. For instance, when did the organisation begin, what name changes did it go through? Why was it formed, who helped form it, etc? These sorts of questions should be answered. I believe that a source that could be consulted for this is: Barry J. Videon (1991) Air Training Corps : the first fifty years;
currently the article includes a number of lists. These could really be condensed into prose (full formed sentences). For instance the Aims and Activities sections could be combined and converted to prose;
currently there are very few references to independent sources. In order to meet B class requirements, each paragraph needs to be cited and where possible this citation should be to a third party source. In this case it might be difficult to get independent sources for some of the information, but the majority of the article should be sourced in this manner;

If you would like some more detailed comments, you might consider requesting a peer review. This can be done by going to Wikipedia:Peer review (general peer review) or WP:MHPR (military specific peer review). Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 03:15, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ADF branch?

Can someone confirm if the AAFC is considered part of the ADF? Retartist (talk) 12:30, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Retartist, no the Australian Air Force Cadets (AAFC) is not considered a part of the ADF. Regards, James at HQAAFC (talk) 00:37, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Disputes

Regarding 318 Squadron's name, there doesn't seem to be a source verifying ReindeerPilot33's belief that it is 318 (Shire of Sutherland) Squadron. If someone could weigh in on this and provide an official source, that'd be great. Until then, we must stick with what the official AAFC website says considering that's the you know... official website :/ Master1701 (talk) 10:08, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

https://members.cadetnet.gov.au/aafc/3WG/318SQN/SitePages/Home.aspx ReindeerPilot33 (talk) 11:06, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Care to explain that link? For starters, it's behind a login wall so the general public cannot see it, and even with my credentials I still cannot access it without some sort of further authorisation. So again, please find a publicly available source or stop editing. Master1701 (talk) 11:13, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am publicly available ReindeerPilot33 (talk) 11:15, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure how a person can be considered "publicly available." I assume you're at home, therefore not being in public. Anyhow, you cannot reference yourself. If you want that Shire status so bad, contact your CO and have them submit a request to update the AAFC website. Master1701 (talk) 11:23, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am referencing myself though ReindeerPilot33 (talk) 11:24, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that's you and what I can only assume are your new accounts posing as others from your SQN as they both were created minutes ago seemingly for the sole purpose of commenting about this. Master1701 (talk) 11:28, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, so since the young cadets over at 318SQN were so insistent that they really are called "Shire of Sutherland" I decided to dig through 3WG's facebook for a mention of them and whatta you know, they are called 318 (Shire of Sutherland) Squadron. See https://www.facebook.com/3wingaafc/posts/pfbid0rHfTXhcSsTHtjniv6f1rd7C7ZnWHLUJ2FF7TQ4NHRhgpoNiAWvqkSgnXUawM8KE8l that's all you had to do guys.

Next time, just find sources before making such edits. I will also update other sqns that are "City of." Master1701 (talk) 14:31, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bro, if you have time to be questioning what people from their squadron know about their squadron, then you have wayyyyyyy to much time on ur hands, probs should use that to police people in ur own squadron instead. if you want to believe that this is just reindeerpilot under a new name, then go ahead, but all i can say is, stop being a dickhead and just let us update what we want to update that isnt even incorrect unless you get all technical cause HQ is slow as. Cmon buddy, just calm down a bit, would ya? Nafodu (talk) 11:39, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why is that always everyone's go-to response on the internet? You're here too you know. And what would you know about policing considering you're just a LCDT? The very basis for Wikipedia is having sources. If there isn't a source, well then too bad. So can we please accept every "source" is either non-existent or flawed so I can revert the page and mark this resolved? Also, if this actually is a different person, sorry, but it's very suspicious when an account is created solely for the purpose of bolstering someone's opinion as it's typically a sock puppet. (A bannable offence on Wikipedia.) Master1701 (talk) 11:50, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Program Changes

when would we put in the new programs changes to the article? Considering we don't know a lot about it? Turbotraveller115 (talk) 01:54, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

When there is a source for it. Master1701 (talk) 04:11, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have added those using publicly available information on the website of the Australian Air Force Cadets. Internal information may constitute as original research, so whilst it would be useful, I have not included it here. BTWiki974 (talk) 12:01, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article clean-ups

This article is truly a mess, given that there's a lot of things that was just repeated in the article, as well as extraneous information that isn't appropriate for a Wikipedia article. For instance, one does not need to explain all the novelties of service in the AAFC here.

A lot of that I went and cleaned up (perhaps feeling bold) but feel free to correct things if you find sources. To any AAFC members here, this is a Wikipedia page, this is not a page to write about service and the more detailed things about the AAFC. Obviously detail that, if you decide to edit and talk, you are a member of the AAFC and declare that conflict of interest. Again, this is Wikipedia, not any random website. BTWiki974 (talk) 07:30, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]