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Requested move 28 September 2019

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The result of the move request was: because there is no consensus to move the page to any particular title here, restoring the title in place before a chain of undiscussed changes, Hebei Elite F.C. (This involves a determination that the March–September title was not established as a stable title, because this is a low-traffic page and only one other editor edited the page over the intervening period.) This close does not preclude further move requests, but please note that evidence of established usage in reliable sources is preferable to claims based upon official names. Dekimasuよ! 02:35, 19 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hebei Olé Elite F.C. → Hebei Aoli Jingying F.C. – See Official Weibo Account. We can see from the picture, published by the club's official weibo account, that Hebei Aoli Jingying, rather than Hebei Olé Elite as Sagan Storo stated, is the official English name of the club. Thus, I request that move the page to Hebei Aoli Jingying. Qby (talk) 09:29, 28 September 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. Sceptre (talk) 19:53, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. Qby (talk) 1:56, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. Giant Snowman 08:23, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - the club is 'Hebei Elite' at Soccerway. Giant Snowman 08:24, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 14 January 2020

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Personally, I think this requested move was initiated too soon from the previous RM. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm (talk) 02:54, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hebei Elite F.C. → Hebei Aoli Jingying F.C. - As the picture in an article Official Weibo Account posted by the club on its official Weibo account shows, which is the Chinese version of twitter, the club's official English name recognized by the club is Hebei Aoli Jingying. A picture taken by a weibo user after Hebei Aoli Jingying match shows that the club's English name which was printed on the banner inside the stadium is Hebei Aoli Jingying. [1] Thus, I request that move the page to Hebei Aoli Jingying, which is the official English name of the club instead of Hebei Olé Elite stated by Sagan Storo as the official name in the edit summary. Qby (talk) 09:37, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. Giant Snowman 10:01, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose as per rationale at previous recent discussion. No evidence this is English-language name used by English-language sources such as Soccerway which uses 'Hebei Elite'. Giant Snowman 16:20, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Qby did not use {{RM}} thus the RM never initiated. Fixed now.

For anyone did not know WP:CRITERIA. We usually use common name in English for WP:Article titles (and yes it contradict with Wikipedia:Naming conventions (sports teams)) and official name may be not a common name.

For people did not knew Chinese , the official Chinese name is 河北奥利精英. which means Hebei Ole elite, or in pinyin : Aoli Jingying (Chinese: 奥利精英; pinyin: Àolì jīngyīng ) . Thus Please dig out reliable secondary English source to prove the common name is "Aoli Jingying" instead of "elite". Also speedy oppose due to quick reopen of RM in November. Matthew hk (talk) 15:16, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

For example, RSSSF, now i would considered as less reliable source due to quality from their individual editors, use "Aoli Jingying" for the women team of Hebei Elite F.C.. Matthew hk (talk) 16:41, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

One more comment on "official" name. Not sure the crest is outdated or not (taken from Chinese FA website]). But it clearly shown "Elite" in text art form. Matthew hk (talk) 08:33, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yet one more note. The founder of the football club, "河北精英集团" (精英集团), a company, choose "Jingying Group" as the official English transliteration. But it has nothing to do with the official English name nor English common name of the football club Matthew hk (talk) 08:37, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]