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The White Book

In the fall of 1939, Count von Moltke was the editor of the White Book, a collection of German diplomatic documents published to show that Poland had started the war. Surely that there is a better way of addressing Molkte's editorship of the White Book than what we have at present? --A.S. Brown (talk) 05:37, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

I made a start about Molkte's work as the editor of The White Book and got rid of the rather inflammatory section heading "Polish War Guilt". I'll try to improve this article a bit, but if anyone is interested, the two volume The Foreign Policy of Hitler's Germany by Gerhard Weinberg is a gold mine of information about German foreign policy in the years 1933-39. Weinberg talks quite a bit about Moltke in his books.--A.S. Brown (talk) 06:47, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

For anyone interested in the contents of The White Book, here it is:The White Book, compete with an introduction by Ribbentrop. The White Book is a maliciously selective and partially falsified account of the origins of World War II drawn from the records of the Auswärtiges Amt, all with the aim of proving the "war guilt" of the Allies. It is no different from its predecessor of 1914. Unlike in 1914, where Prince Max von Lichnowsky, the last German ambassador in London and a very brave, honorable and decent man, had the courage to speak up and tell the truth about who started the war, no German diplomat in 1939 had anything resembling Lichnowsky's courage and integrity. Herbert von Dirksen, the German ambassador in London in 1939 was cut from a different cloth than Lichnowsky and went along with The White Book of 1939. It says much that Moltke that he was the editor of this disreputable book designed to glorify Hitler and acquit him of responsibility for starting World War Two.--A.S. Brown (talk) 04:49, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Finally, is it really necessary to include a press caption about a single photograph from the German Historical Institute in this article? We don't normally don't that, and the only reason why that was done seems to be being to include a section under the very inflammatory heading "Polish War Guilt". That seems to have been the only reason why that caption was included in this article. One should criticize the edit, not the editor, but in this case, the editor who did that has made such edits as including the name Danzig without quotation marks while including Gdansk in quotation marks. Putting the names of Polish cities that used to be German cities in quotation marks is a common practice by German nationalists to show that the Polish names are not the "real" names for these cities. The editor who did that appears to be American, but he or she seems to be sympathetic towards the claim that the Oder-Neisse line is not the legitimate frontier between Germany and Poland. People have the right to believe in whatever they want, but including such beliefs in an article is really questionable. The section title "Polish War Guilt" was clearly meant to suggest that Hitler had it right and it was Poland that attacked Germany in 1939-an outrageous lie that is soundly rejected by historians. The fact that the editor was using a caption about a photograph from the German Historical Institute to make that claim says much. What is really surprising is this lasted for four years. I don't like to delete sourced info, but in this case, I think we should. If this article wants to talk about Moltke's role as the editor of The White Book, that is fine, but really including this press caption under the title "Polish War Guilt" is a form of anti-Polish POV-pushing. There is also nothing here at all about Moltke's role in the Danzig crisis of 1939. Given that the Danzig crisis led to World War Two, this is a very strange omission. --A.S. Brown (talk) 19:15, 3 April 2021 (UTC)