Talk:Großer Zapfenstreich

Merge proposal

I would support a merge, but the current suggestion has Mergefrom "Grosser . . . " Mergeto "Großer . . .". Perhaps this should be the other way round. Although possibly disputed, Wikipedia:Naming conventions (standard letters with diacritics) appear to recommend not using "ß":

"For special-case characters such as þ, ð and ß, because of the limited geographic regions in which these letters are used, English-speakers in other parts of the world (especially those for whom English is a second language) often find these symbols incomprehensible and unpronounceable. Difficulties also arise in terms of how to alphabetize them, since most English speakers, even those for whom English is their native language, do not know where to place them in a standard alphabet. As a result, this guideline recommends that their use be avoided in article titles."

I presume the Swiss would also use the "ss" spelling. --Boson 22:57, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I also support a merge - the articles are practically identical. -Grahamdubya 17:32, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

And, of course, the spelling should be "Grosser Zapfenstreich", the "r" ending normally being used when the term is by itself (not following a definite article etc.); so, the other article could be merged with this article (as originally proposed) and then this article could be moved to "Grosser Zapfenstreich" on the basis of the recommendation regarding special characters. Both old names should then redirect to "Grosser Zapfenstreich". --Boson 11:15, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I've merged Grosse Zapfenstreich to this article, since this is the one that's spelled correctly. There is now also a redirect from Grosser Zapfenstreich for those who can't easily type a ß, and a {{foreignchar}} template at the top for those who want to read more about what ß is. —Angr 06:11, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

But therefore when in English written with a definite article, it should then be written in the form "the Große Zapfenstreich". -134.93.52.128 (talk) 14:37, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

`the Grosse Zapfenstreich´ sounds not right to me - I am german, so You may differ. My argument would be: in german it is called `Grosser Zapfenstreich´ without any article as `military-ceremony´. Only If someone talks about it - `...Ich gehe zum grossen Zapfenstreich...´/ (I am going to the great Zapfenstreich) or `...danach kommt der grosse Zapfenstreich...´/ (after that the great Zapfenstreich will follow) - You will find those other forms. The term `Zapfenstreich´ itself is mostly used without an article - much like a command. And now, even this comment of a Kraut like me could be finished with that expression: Zapfenstreich!--78.54.33.91 (talk) 03:16, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Ceremonies similar in form, elsewhere

I know for sure the British do something like this sometimes, for example Hong Kong 1997 flag ceremony (not the one with Jiang Zemin but the British-only one), with a few columns of soldiers, speech, a serenade, Hymn, flags. Less the flags, the ceremony is very similar to evening ceremonies in Germany. Not all German ceremonies follow the form in the article either (e.g. the G.Z. for Helmut Kohl in 1998). 118.90.20.3 (talk) 02:15, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Songs played for the honored person

the article states that its up to 4 songs that are usually played, but in germany its usually 3 songs, however two people so far where granted 4 on their personal wishes - the second one being quite controversial because Christian Wulff who was honored there was resigning after several corruption scandals blew up in his face. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.110.95.2 (talk) 10:42, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Torch

What is the origin of the torches and their significance? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 05:36, 1 November 2019 (UTC)