Talk:Greyhawk (supplement)

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Greyhawk and need for Chainmail

The article cites "Designers & Dragons" which states that with the publication of Greyhawk supplement Chainmail rules were not needed. However, Chainmail is still needed to have a turn order / initiative / etc. which is NOT covered in Greyhawk. So the reference is simply incorrect. Rjljr2 (talk) 15:08, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I came here to address the same thing (unchanged in article after 2.5 years). The citation from Pulsipher in White Dwarf #23 is absolutely in error. Pulsipher appears to have incorrectly recalled the "Alternative Combat System" which appeared simultaneously with the Chainmail-derived system in original D&D Volume 1. Note that the Wikipedia page for Dungeons & Dragons (1974) correctly notes this fact (see "optional combat system"). The second citation by Applecline is missing a book page number and cannot be verified (nor could it be correct).

The above user's observation is also correct: neither original D&D nor Greyhawk present any turn order/initiative system, and presumably one must rely on Chainmail for that. In short: Greyhawk made no changes to the core combat system whatsoever.

I'm going to remove that mistaken line and the two citations that attempt to support it. If I should support this null-hypothesis in some other way, hopefully a more experienced editor can provide guidance. Danielrcollins (talk) 03:36, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]