Talk:Grand cru (food and drink)

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This article was nominated for deletion on 29 August 2009 (UTC). The result of the discussion was keep.

Attribution note

Some of the content in the "Beer section" was extracted from the wine article Grand cru. Agne ^Cheese/^Wine 18:18, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And this page was created after discussion at Talk:Grand cru. -Oreo Priest ^talk 18:25, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reason for article

This article was created after a great deal of discussion at the grand cru article. During that discussion, it was discovered that the term "grand cru" had expanded greatly beyond just viticulture. Wakablogger2 (talk) 09:00, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is also not a dictionary definition. It has a wider cultural usage that needs explaining. Oreo Priest ^talk 04:07, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Oreo Priest. For evidence, here are some citations from the grand cru discussion page when the importance of this was being discussed:

"Facing the intensified international competition of the 1980s and heightened fears of increasingly centralized regulation, French chocolatiers and cultural taste makers attempted to stimulate new demand for craft commodities by promoting "genuine," "grand cru," or "vintage" French chocolate. "The cultural politics of food and eating" by James L. Watson, Melissa L. Caldwell, page 145. [[1]]
"A campaign created by Rumrill-Hoyt depicting the drama, emotion and impact expressed with black and white photography, won the top prize Grand Cru Gold Award." "Art direction" by National Association of Art Directors (U.S.), National Society of Art Directors, page 2. [[2]]

When searching for these, I also found an equestrian event in Australia using the term "grand cru" and a designation for students studying food that uses the term at a US school. Wakablogger2 (talk) 20:43, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You probably want to bring this up on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grand cru (food and drink). Agne ^Cheese/^Wine 23:01, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]