Talk:Gjon Muzaka

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On 25 September 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from Giovanni Musachi to Gjon Muzaka. The result of the discussion was moved.

Title. Who calls him "Gjon Muzaka" ?

According to WP rules, the names have to be in a form that is commonly found in english bibliography. As far as I see in literature (including the english sources in the article), he is usually named "John Musacchi", or Jovan, or Ivan. I think he called himself "Jovan" or "Giovani". This is not the albanophone WP.--Skylax30 (talk) 07:37, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your OR thoughts and feelings ("Giovani", never heard of that name, perhaps you mean "Giovanni" :) ), and your expertise in "literature". Here's what google has to say:

10,100 hits for "Gjon Muzaka" without Wikipedia [[1]],
For "John Musacchi", um, 35 hits [[2]]
For "Ivan Musacchi"... zero results [[3]]. "Jovan Musacchi" zero [[4]]. "Giovani Musacchi" seems to be a typo in the name of a sportsman, with one hit [[5]]. "Giovanni Musacchi" also refers to multiple separate personalities but even all of these put together with those referring to Gjon Muzaka get a measly 230 hits [[ https://www.google.com/search?biw=1438&bih=638&ei=H9Y2W-SeO-Xt5gLtmIVQ&q=%22Giovanni+Musacchi%22+-Wikipedia&oq=%22Giovanni+Musacchi%22+-Wikipedia&gs_l=psy-ab.3...0.0.0.48762.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1..64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.QQ9072Z6kug]]. Oh, and bonus, just so you don't get your hopes up "Ioannis Mousakhis" gets zero, of course [[6]]. -- Calthinus (talk) 00:45, 30 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 25 September 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Vpab15 (talk) 19:22, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Giovanni Musachi → Gjon Muzaka – This page was moved by User:Seemitfe without discussion, and clearly having ignoring the previous discussion on this talk page. Gjon Muzaka is the most common name. Djks1 (talk) 15:55, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Google books results:

"Giovanni Musachi", 588 results
"Giovanni Musachi" -Muzaka, 476 results
"Gjon Muzaka", 1,140 results
"Gjon Muzaka" -Musachi, 1,110 results
"John Muzaka", 53 results
"Ivan Muzaka", 0 results
"Jovan Muzaka", 3 results
"John Musachi", 251 results
"Ivan Musachi", 4 results
"Jovan Musachi", 0 results
"Jovan Musaki", 4 results

Therefore, I propose that the page be moved back to Gjon Muzaka, which is more commonly used than all other forms, including the name it was recently moved to, Giovanni Musachi. Djks1 (talk) 15:55, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nomination.--Maleschreiber (talk) 20:42, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support; note also that User:Seemitfe is now an identified sock, and so the original move was invalid, period. WP:SNOW honestly. --Calthinus (talk) 18:09, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Regarding WP:SNOW, I was not an autoconfirmed user so could not move the page back. Starting a move request was the only way, as no one had moved the page back in 2 months. Djks1 (talk) 18:25, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Support as per nomination above.--Lorik17 (talk) 14:20, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.