Talk:Hesya Helfman

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Father's name

Her father's name will have been Meyer, patronymic Meyerovna as given in Russian Wikipedia. A Russianised variant Mironova (from the baptismal name Miron, more common as a surname than patronymic) is plausible. "Mirokh", unknown as a Jewish first name, is most likely corrupt transcription 92.24.32.248 (talk) 20:45, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

correct writing

She wasn`t russian, that`s why her name was Hessia Helfmann. But in the russian language there is no H. That`s why they call her Gesya Gelfman. But this is not correct. Nobody will call Heinrich Heine in Geinrig Geine. Only in Russia. Berlin, 15.4.2012 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.20.6.200 (talk) 08:55, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Helfman's alleged "free love"

Since the statement "At a personal level, Helfman practiced then-revolutionary free love" seemed to me extremely unilikely (and, frankly, rather annoying), I coudn't help purchasing at JStore and downloading the article it was allegedly founded upon.

Robert H. McNeal writes therein:

Promiscuity seems also to have been quite rare. True, Sofia Perovskaia became enamoured of the terrorist leader Zheliabov while they were living together in the line of duty; but he was probably her first and certainly her last lover. Gesia Gelfman apparently had several men, one of whom was the father of the unborn child that stayed off her execution. At a later date (that is some 30 years later – ed.) Inessa Armand and Alexandra Kollontai preached and practiced "free love." But by and large even monogamous unchurched union seem to have been no more common among radicals than non radicals, and probably less common.
— Robert H. McNeal, "Women in the Russian Radical Movement". Journal of Social History (Winter 1971–1972), 5 (2): 155

Any conclusion drawn from the above to the effect that Hesya Helfman may have practiced "then-revolutionary free love", appears to be not only improper and rash, but certainly bogus. I have therefore removed the statement.--Jeanambr (talk) 14:51, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]