Talk:Ulnar collateral ligament injury of the thumb

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It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. --Stemonitis 18:36, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Obviously the amount of people getting injured from snapping the necks of small furry animals is minute compared to those getting the injury from skiing and occupation-related injury.. While this is a cute name for an article, it isn't justified. Where in the English-speaking world, outside of some parts' of the United Kingdom would a physician actually say "you have gatekeeper's thumb"? Note even if this title was kept, I am pretty sure "thumb" shouldn't be capitalized. Gamekeeper's Thumb has 6 Google hits, UCL tear has 300+. House of Scandal 22:03, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I don't know if we're looking at the same google results. A google search for "Gamekeeper's Thumb" reveals many relevant pages, including eMedicine and about.com. The first result of "UCL tear" on google is the eMedicine page on Gamekeeper's Thumb. Gamekeeper's Thumb is much more well known. Consider a similar scenario with tennis elbow: Physicians aren't going to come and tell you "You have lateral epicondylitis!". They'll tell you simply that you have tennis elbow. P TO 00:57, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I may have typed "gatekeeper's thumb" or something. But look at how many hits there are for "skier's thumb" (way more). I think we definately have to de-capitalize "thumb" regardless. I won't cause a ton of fuss about this is you want to keep "Gamekeeper's thumb" -- like I said, it's a cute article name. However, I bet someone with less appreciation for the quirky may raise an objection in the future. PS - I'm from Boston and most doctors here would say "lateral epicondylitis", but that doesn't represent a world view anymore than does "Gamekeeper's thumb", "Guinea pig strangler's phalanges" or whatever. (c: House of Scandal 01:11, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think Gamekeeper's Thumb should at least be moved to Skier's thumb and then have UCL tear redirect to it. I don't really care where this article gets moved to, as long as it still exists :D. I didn't intend for the name of the article to be cute originally; "Gatekeeper's Thumb" was the name that was listed at Wikipedia:Requested articles. P TO 01:21, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Gamekeeper's thumb is indeed the conventional terminology accepted in all English-speaking countries, including the USA (but apparently excluding Boston). The analogy to that other vexing orthopedic condition, tennis elbow, is valid. DiverDave (talk) 13:12, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Audience / Medical jargon

What audience is this being written for?

I'd have to look up several words in order to understand the initial few sentences:

Gamekeeper's thumb (also known as skier's thumb or UCL tear) is a type of injury to the ulnar collateral ligament (UCL) of the thumb. The UCL is torn at (or in some cases even avulsed from) its insertion site into the proximal phalanx of the thumb in the vast majority (approximately 90%) of cases.

Contrast that with the beginning of "Tear of meniscus," which I find completely understandable:

In sports and orthopedics, a tear of a meniscus is a rupturing of one or more of the fibrocartilage strips in the knee called menisci. When doctors and patients refer to "torn cartilage" in the knee, they actually may be referring to an injury to a meniscus at the top of one of the tibiae. Menisci can be torn during innocuous activities such as walking or squatting. They can also be torn by traumatic force encountered in sports or other forms of physical exertion. The traumatic action is most often a twisting movement at the knee while the leg is bent. In older adults, the meniscus can be damaged following prolonged 'wear and tear' called a degenerative tear.

Assuming that the intended audience is not MDs, the style of the second article seems preferable. WikiAlto (talk) 07:48, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]