Talk:Friedrich-Wilhelm Krüger

This article is a joke

His "service" in Poland is not even mentioned. --84.234.60.154 (talk) 06:08, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

OK, it is - VERY briefly. --84.234.60.154 (talk) 06:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Added details of war crimes in Poland

This came from German wikipedia and was translated by me with the aid of Babelfish. Still no references however, but the article is much more balanced now.Mtsmallwood (talk) 04:35, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Sources?

There is only one source here. It simply says he lived, was a guard, and died. Can we have more?--Scott Mac 16:34, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Polish resistance claimed his liquidation

... in a report during 1943 https://archive.org/details/ReportFromPolishSecretArmyOfPolandTyphoidFeverAsAWeaponBiologicalWeaponDuringWorldWarTwo1943 --197.228.59.72 (talk) 01:01, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Friedrich-Wilhelm Krüger

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Friedrich-Wilhelm Krüger's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "mwk":

• From Pacification actions in German-occupied Poland: Pacification of Michnów at the Muzeum Wsi Kieleckiej (Kielce Regional Folk Museum) (in Polish)
• From Michniów: Michnów Mausoleum at Muzeum Wsi Kieleckiej (in Polish)

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 09:04, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Some anonymous person is deleting historical data

Quotation: 'The youngest victim was a nine-day-old boy, thrown by a German soldier into a burning barn'.

Somebody is trying to embelish the article by deleting the above sentence. In France was Oradour-sur-Glane and in Czechia: Lidice.

In Poland under German rule were 300 Oradour-sur-Glanes (within the borders after 1945), and in Belarus 600 (six hundred).

Please Wiki-users: do not try to hide the German genocide on Slavians, which took at least SIX TIMES MORE victims than Holocaust.
5 million Russian POW died of hunger, cold or disease.
Kyrgyz and Uzbek Red Army soldiers were being shot by Germans on the spot without any trial.

The modest assumption states that at least 10 000 000 (ten million) Slavic women were raped by Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS during WW2.

Please keep this sentence as the most accurate, and as the most detailed evidence of the rule of dr Hans Frank in occupied Poland.

I know that movies like: Our mothers, our fathers, Hitler's bunker or Das Boot are presenting a special point of view, but Slavic people are having very good memory...

Chokar123 (talk) 04:40, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

PS. Innocent and not guilty people - that is the current young German generation and their fathers - should have nothing to hide. Leave the truth about WW2 as it is. There is no point to make from this article something beautiful, because the hero and his deeds weren't such at all. The photos are shocking too - that is the history, which alas cannot be changed.

Chokar123 (talk) 23:00, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

The compensation

After the war, no single help was given to the Polish industry from German companies like Krupp, Siemens, Porsche, Audi or Volkswagen.
On the contrary, after the fall of Communism in Poland, many Polish brands were bought, destroyed or rebranded by the German, French or Italian big industrial corporations. Their opus magnus was destroying well-prospering Polish shipyard industry with the help of Polish traitors in the government.
Tens of tons of gold, which were stolen from Poles (not only from Polish Jews) are still in the Swiss banks, who were - during the WW2 - the German industry's bankers.
Chokar123 (talk) 00:40, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

I need to express that clearly: that wasn't Hitler's war. That was German industry's war.
Hindenburg wanted von Pappen to be the Chancellor, but owners of German shipyards (with the lead of Hamburg Shipyard), whom Hitler had promised slaves - mainly from Poland, and unlimited contracts with Kriegsmarine, forced him to nominate Hitler for this post.
And NOT ordinary Germans from the streets should pay this compensation, but the German industry, which used Hitler as a puppet, to lead their politics.
Chokar123 (talk) 01:10, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Forced germanization

For user Buidhe: (edition from 28th December 2020)

Some children (typically dark-eyed and brunettes) were kidnapped - especially from Zamość region - to work as a slaves on German farms, for German industry or were sent straight to concentration camps, to be gassed immediately or for pseudo-medical experiments.

Here you have an example of one child (a poor, young woman) from Zamość, who was sent to KL Auschwitz-Birkenau. No chances for her for a new German parents. The number of children sent just to Auschwitz was nearly a quarter of million. The worst reputation - as a detention place for children and youth - had the concentration camp at Radogoszcz in Łódź, Poland. Could be easily compared to Congo under Belgian rules.

Czesława Kwoka in 1942 or 1943. (Photograph credit: Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum and Wilhelm Brasse)

Only blondes and enough young could be germanised.

Take a notice please. Whole the population of 116 000 farmers from Zamość region was uprooted and many - we are talking about thousands - children were, according to the German doctrines not suitable; not racially worthy to become real Germans.

I reverted your edition, because it was not exact.

My grandma worked as a slave on German farm, and her future husband survived the village pacification, and in spite of that, that they were 12 and 11 respectively (when the war started) they weren't taken to the III Reich for germanisation. We are such a dark-skinned Slavic family...

PS. Beside have a look on the picture, which I have added in the main article. There you can see 8-year-old girls (from Zamość among others), which are in the concentration camp located close to city of Łódź. All of them were too old to be brain-washed in Germany.

Chokar123 (talk) 20:29, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Gibberish

He was in charge of driving out (ethnic cleansing) of over 116,000 Polish farmers (30 thousands of them were children) from the area around Zamość,[10] known as Aktion Zamosc. Most of the children were sent to concentrations camps, labour camps and blonde and enough young to the III Reich for Germanisation, or to do a slave work on German farms.

I suppose that sounded good in some other language.2A02:AA1:1601:ECCF:BCB4:F662:520F:7A62 (talk) 21:31, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Make it better if you can. I am not in touch with English for last 31 months. I do not read in that language anymore.

Mine is the second sentence. I think this could be better: Most of the children were sent to concentrations camps and to labor camps. Blond and sufficiently young were being sent to the III Reich to be germanised, or to do slave jobs on German farms

Chokar123 (talk) 16:16, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Photos are being deleted

I removed three unessential photos, due to complain by some user about overcrowding (10th September 2021).
Please keep the rest. There are not many of them remaining.
I know that the best option for some people is to hide them; to hide the truth.
Crimes committed by Wehrmacht and pacifications (300) of Polish villages are much worse than concentration camps.
I repeat - the new German generation has nothing to hide.
They have moral responsibility by all means, but they are not murderers, like some percentage of their forefathers was.
Chokar123 (talk) 11:40, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Again hiding the truth

I reverted the edition from the 14th of July.

Krueger was in charge of mass-scale genocide and a war criminal - probably the most cruel and murderous in Eastern-european history.

German Wiki states that he was a politician and high-ranking commander of police (sic!).

The lies are everywhere, and we know who is spreading them around.

Chokar123 (talk) 20:59, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Whether or not he participated in war crimes is irrelevant. He was never convicted, and therefore cannot be said to be a war criminal, Wikipedia is very clear on this, participation is not what makes you a war criminal, conviction is! I understand you have a personal attachment to this, but Wikipedia is not the place for personal grudges.213.96.253.255 (talk) 06:57, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

What a pile of nonsense. Himmler, Hitler, Heydrich or Goering were also not convicted. They were all monsters and bandits. It doesn't matter for me and for every thinking person, that Krueger was not convicted. HE WAS A WAR CRIMINAL and in charge of genocide in Poland. Every excuse for spreading the Auschwitz Lie is good.. Nicht wahr? It is not personal. In Belarus, England, France, and Poland, the German language is not welcomed. It is even forbidden. And all these nations are having own reasons, and what is painful for you - the evidence. For you, Krueger was a politician and a high-ranking policeman (sic!). I wish you further successes in the Wiki editions. Keep going.

Chokar123 (talk) 16:33, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Citations

I am working over citations now. The most issues, like crimes commited by Wehrhmacht, pacifications of villages, Bismarck actions agains Poles (forced germanisation) will have at least 3-4 quotations. I need more time to show the truth in ganz splendour. The most important issues are already done, to close the mouth of Auschwitz deniers.

Chokar123 (talk) 19:53, 16 August 2023 (UTC)