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The redirect that was holding up the acceptance has been moved into neverland as New Fox (0). Robert McClenon (talk) 05:28, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 8 January 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved per consensus below. (non-admin closure) –Ammarpad (talk) 05:33, 16 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fox (company) → Fox Corporation – It is the name of a corporation rather than a company. AdamDeanHall (talk) 23:37, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support per WP:NCCORP (legal status used as disambiguration) and the SEC filing of the 7 January 2019. Both Fox (company) and redirect Fox (corporation) were listed at Fox (disambiguation), I boldly removed "Fox (corporation)". 62.165.227.157 (talk) 01:06, 9 January 2019 (UTC).[reply]

Comments - Several sources are reporting today that the corporation has applied for the name "Fox Corp."/"Fox Corporation". I was going to give it a few days and see if that truly panned out, and which name was more common, and just move it at that time. I think it'll probably be Fox Corp., especially as an analogy wit News Corp., but we'll have to see. Hopefully by the time this discussion runs its course in a week, we'll have the answer and be able to make an informed decision rather than a guess. - BilCat (talk) 01:16, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

News Corp and News Corporation are different articles, though... I support per WP:NCCORP because it is the natural way to disambiguate. "Fox (company)" doesn't disambiguate very well - there are lots of companies called "Fox" - so as either "Corp." or "Corporation" it is still better than "(company)". It's already been moved from New Fox on 27 Dec 18. 62.165.227.157 (talk) 01:30, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That wasn't the point. - BilCat (talk) 02:27, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support Rreagan007 (talk) 02:09, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support per our naming conventions for companies, which does defer to the company's preference for the legal status suffix if it needs to be in the article title for disambiguation purposes — and this is a case where natural disambiguation is probably better than just putting "(company)" or "(corporation)" in the title. In addition to the SEC filing, the forthcoming corporate website uses the full word "Corporation", which is presumably an indication that "Fox Corp" won't be the most "correct" name, despite the logical connection with News Corp. (It actually appears that, most of the time, Fox Corporation will refer to itself as just "FOX", but that again brings up the ambiguity issue — especially since that this is the same shorthand as is commonly used for the Fox Broadcasting Company subsidiary; FOX, in all-caps, has long redirected there — and also poses Manual of Style issues, as "FOX" is pronounced as a word and is not an acronym.) --WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:25, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support MARIO^Fan78 00:06, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support The actual name is far superior to a Wikipedia-invented disambiguator. UnitedStatesian (talk) 03:21, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support The actual name looks to at least be in some use and out article refers to it like this. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:20, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support I agreed. Landingdude13 (talk) 06:38, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support I’m not sure how much could add, but it should definitely be moved to whatever fuller company name it ends up at. Staying at the manufactured disambiguate just wouldn’t work--Fradio71 (talk) 06:46, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support: As this is the official, proper name, I believe it should be reflected as such. Additionally, "Fox" is a common term that could be confused with the several iterations of Murdoch's company. DÅRTHBØTTØ_(T•C) 19:48, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support for sake of unambiguity and avoiding parenthetical disambiguators. Lordtobi (✉) 10:10, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Who owns Fox Corporation? Is it private? publicly traded? Skepticalgiraffe (talk) 14:38, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It was all I believe spurred on by the collapse of the News of the World / The Sun newspaper in the U.K. and resulting lawsuit. Which brought down the entire Fox/News Corp. empire. CaribDigita (talk) 02:20, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Skepticalgiraffe: Fox Corporation is a public company. The Murdoch family controls 39% of the voting power. UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:46, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, the article is incorrect. It says "It is owned by the Murdoch family via a family trust with 39% interest". A public company is different from a company owned by the Murdoch family. Could you correct it?Skepticalgiraffe (talk) 13:27, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reorganization

Reorganized Fox Entertainment's assets as per all cited sources on both it and Fox Corp's article. Bento Box Entertainment, Fox Alternative, and XOF are all divisions of Fox Entertainment, with Bento Box continuing to operate independently. None of the cited sources for Tubi lists the service as a subsidy of either Fox Entertainment nor the Fox Broadcasting Company (the Fox network); I've edited the page accordingly. MarcoPolo250 (talk) 15:31, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have a solution.

So Disney bought 20th Century Fox, and renamed it "20th Century 'Studios'". But then I realized that they didn't buy Fox Corporation. So if Disney made its permanent acquisition with 20th Century Studios, 20th Television, Searchlight Productions, and 20th Television Animation, then shouldn't Fox Corporation being bought by Disney even though they made all 20th Television shows (which was distributed by Disney)? Cbelizaire (talk) 01:39, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Cbelizaire: Can you please rephrase your question? It's not clear to me exactly what you're asking, or what problem you have a solution for. Thanks, Aoi (青い) (talk) 01:42, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Cbelizaire: Fox Corporation was spun off from 21st Century Fox before Disney bought 21st Century Fox. Fox Corporation was never part of Disney. Trivialist (talk) 02:34, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The use of "Fox" vs "FOX" for Fox Corporation brands

One of the edits I made while editing "List of 9-1-1 episodes" was shortening the hotlink "Fox Broadcasting Company" to "FOX". After revisiting this page, I began to wonder if the title should be typed in as "Fox" or as "FOX"? After investigating and reviewing the different websites for the Fox Corporation brands, I discovered they all use "FOX" except for when talking about the name of the Fox Corporation itself throughout it's own website, https://www.foxcorporation.com/businesses/, https://www.foxcorporation.com/management/executive-team/, https://investor.foxcorporation.com/static-files/59e636f7-2b1f-455e-b140-5e39a80d8975.

By selecting the About Us hotlink within the Fox Corporation website, https://www.foxcorporation.com/about-us/, it takes you to a page that demonstrates the use of "FOX" when talking about its brands:

"Under the FOX banner, we produce and distribute content through some of the world’s leading and most valued brands, including: FOX News Media, FOX Sports, FOX Entertainment, FOX Television Stations and Tubi Media Group. We empower a diverse range of creators to imagine and develop culturally significant content, while building an organization that thrives on creative ideas, operational expertise and strategic thinking..."

To me this implies that "Fox" as used in Fox Corporation is the only iteration where this happens. All other Fox Corporation brands use "FOX". This would included FOX News Media, FOX Sports, FOX Entertainment, FOX Television Stations and even the FOX Broadcasting Company. It should also be noted that Fox Corporation refers to itself as "FOX" throughout its website. An example of this can also be found in second paragraph of the About Use page:

"...We have long been a leader in news, sports and entertainment programming, achieving strong revenue growth and profitability in a complex industry environment over the past several years. FOX will continue to invest across our businesses, allocate resources toward investments in higher growth initiatives and take advantage of strategic opportunities, including potential acquisitions across the range of the media categories in which we operate."

My question is whether or not the use of "Fox" should be changed to "FOX" in all instances where it is found site wide except for Fox Corporation? This would include but not limited to:

Fox Broadcasting Company, Fox News Media, Fox Sports, Fox Entertainment, and Fox Television Stations. knighstalker (talk) 12:28, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@KnighsTalker: Here's my two cents: I think it should be treated as a proper noun and capitalized, but not in ALLCAPS. FWIW, I found this article which goes into depth as to spell it out. It's from a website called PriestlyPointer.com. Basically, it says: "Fox: Don’t be tricked into writing this in all caps to replicate the Fox logo. “Fox” was the name of the founder, and any of the Fox TV and radio entities – such as Fox TV or Fox News Radio – should be written with only the “F” capitalized." The link is found here. Charlesaaronthompson (talk) 06:32, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]