Talk:Ford v Ferrari

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Requested move 3 June 2019

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The result of the move request was: Moved PC78 offers a strong policy argument and the other supports generally imply the same. No policy based opposition and they're also outnumbered. (non-admin closure) В²C ☎ 00:38, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ford v. Ferrari → Ford v Ferrari – Punctuation correction. 90.249.115.89 (talk) 14:39, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just a reminder before the discussion takes off that we do not base our titles on poster stylizations, or even official titles. We go with what is most common in reliable sources, and follow our own style guide. Dekimasuよ! 15:53, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- The cited sources seem all over the map. Looking at the list of citations in the article, I don't see the title of any of them using the proposed form. —BarrelProof (talk) 00:22, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support, usage in reliable sources is mixed but examples of "Ford v Ferrari" include The Independent, Esquire, Empire and Entertainment Weekly, so on that basis I think it's best to follow the poster. Do we have a preference on abbreviating "versus"? I couldn't find anything specific in the MOS. PC78 (talk) 17:30, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose this could easily be misread Ford 5 Ferrari. Leave the dot in for the time being. In ictu oculi (talk) 20:25, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Wouldn't the Roman numeral use an uppercase 'V'? —BarrelProof (talk) 00:57, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I don't consider the lack of punctuation for the "v" to be a problem, given that every adversarial legal case originating from Canada, Australia, and the UK has an unpunctuated "v" (see, e.g. R v Hinks, Pirrie v McFarlane, White v Driver). bd2412 T 20:57, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The abbreviation "vs." is commonly used and "v." is easily read that way. Barca (talk) 12:53, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support When Boyz n the Hood gets changed to Boys in the Neighborhood, I'll change to Oppose. WP:OFFICIAL seems pretty ridiculous, and, IMHO, film titles should stay as they are. UberVegan🌾 20:52, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Seeing that reliable sources are mixed and the abbreviation is acceptable with or without the period, we should go with the actual title. Calidum 23:12, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support: In promotional material such as trailers and posters its always "v".--Mazewaxie 10:20, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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RfC notice

There is a request for comment whose outcome may affect this article: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film#RfC on distributor of post-merger Fox films. Nardog (talk) 16:31, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 6 November 2019

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Ferrari cars also won Le Mans in 1949 and 1954.

Independent Team in 1949

Factory Team in 1954

A total of 9 times!

Please edit to be historically accurate

I attended Sebring 12 and Daytona 24 Hour races

1964 thru 1973.

Have followed the sport since 1957...

Thank You

J.C. 99.102.44.65 (talk) 04:55, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — IVORK _Talk 05:25, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The article doesn't say that Ferrari didn't win Le Mans in 1949 and 1954, so it's not inaccurate from that perspective. The point of saying that Ferrari won in 1958 and every year from 1960 through 1965 is to highlight that in the leadup to the 1966 race, Ferrari had won 7 of the previous 8 events. DH85868993 (talk) 05:54, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Please handle the incoming redirect Le Mans '66

Please add the hatnote:

{{redirect|Le Mans '66|the 1966 race|1966 24 Hours of Le Mans}}

-- 67.70.33.184 (talk) 06:06, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Done QueerFilmNerd^talk 08:10, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 9 November 2019

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2001:B07:6443:A0FA:A0F5:7529:9839:8B0E (talk) 14:06, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

| starring = {{Plainlist|

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. QueerFilmNerd^talk 20:40, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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2001:B07:6443:A0FA:A0F5:7529:9839:8B0E (talk) 14:14, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. QueerFilmNerd^talk 20:40, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cast

Matt Damon as Carroll Shelby, an American automotive designer and engineer
Christian Bale as Ken Miles, a British World War II veteran and a professional race car driver
Caitriona Balfe as Mollie Miles, Miles's wife
Jon Bernthal as Lee Iacocca, vice-president of Ford
Tracy Letts as Henry Ford II, the CEO of Ford
Josh Lucas as Leo Beebe, a Ford executive
Noah Jupe as Peter Miles, Miles's son
Remo Girone as Enzo Ferrari, founder of the Italian automobile racing team Scuderia Ferrari and sports car manufacturer Ferrari.
Ray McKinnon as Phil Remington
JJ Feild as Roy Lunn, a Ford engineer involved in the GT40 program
Gian Franco Tordi as Head of Security for Gianni Agnelli, president of Italian automobile manufacturer Fiat and Ferrari
Jack McMullen as Charlie Agapiou
Benjamin Rigby as Bruce McLaren, a New Zealand professional race car driver and Miles's race teammate
Joe Williamson as Donald N. Frey, Chief Engineer of Ford
Alex Gurney as Dan Gurney, an American professional race car driver and car constructor
Corrado Invernizzi as Franco Gozzi
Wallace Langham as Dr. Granger
Francesco Bauco as Lorenzo Bandini, an Italian professional race car driver, Ferrari,Scuderia Ferrari.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:b07:6443:a0fa:a0f5:7529:9839:8b0e (talk • contribs) 14:14, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Le Mans '66

Can't recall where I read or heard it but the director explained that the title change: He said they weren't dumbing the title down for US audiences, the title was always intended to be Ford Versus Ferrari but that it was more difficult to make use of the company names in Europe and so instead they retitled the film outside the US and named it it after the race "Le Mans". Maybe someone can find a source for this and add it to the production section. Maybe I'll find it and add it later when the article is unlocked. -- 109.78.230.200 (talk) 01:42, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 10 December 2019

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ADD:

Ferrari would go on to win The 1967 Daytona 24 Hours.

With Bandini/Parkes Ferrari 330P4 #846, also taking 2nd and 3rd with the 330P4 and a independent 330P3

For a side by side photo finish, after the Ford Mk.IIs succumbed to gearbox and other failures.

Ferrari proceeded to win The Worlds Sports Car Championship for that year

Based on points won from wins and placings at races around the world.

such as 2nd and 3rd Over all at the 1967 Le Mans 24 Hour. 99.102.44.162 (talk) 12:18, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: That information is irrelevant to the film, as it ends in 1966. - Areaseven (talk) 12:37, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Film's discrepancy with reality?

I was reading Miles' article here - if I'm remembering correctly - and was surprised to find out that Miles raced the 1965 Le Mans since I had only seen this films depiction of the story. The movie depicts him staying stateside. I understand that the movie is not a documentary and certain "artistic license" was taken. I wonder if this and other deviations from fact should be included in the article itself, perhaps in the "plot" section? No worries either way. Thanks!THX1136 (talk) 00:58, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the article needs a section on "Historical accuracy". S C Cheese (talk) 21:27, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced statement?

In the introduction for the article, it explicitly states that Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise were originally planned to star in the movie. Where's the source? Am I missing something? I don't see a source after the sentence, nor do I see any explanation anywhere else. Perhaps I missed something, but I am quite confused as to why it is there.107.5.19.153 (talk) 22:34, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sound

Why is it important to state that Ford v Ferrari was the last winner of the Sound Editing Oscar in the main body? Shouldn't it just be noted during it's accolades section and not in the main body? Because it takes up a lot of space in the main body unnecessarily and The 1917 Wikipedia article doesn't state the fact that it is the last Sound Editing winner in it's main body. 105.112.99.46 (talk) 19:24, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]