Talk:Food pairing

Out of place

There is some confusion about foodpairing (the method) and foodpairing (the brand/website). On the current wiki the method is explained quite good, but there is also content that are products of the foodpairing brand, like the foodpairing tree, the "new combinations" method, "interchangeable" method. These things are developed by the people of the foodpairing brand, so these are out of place here. I will make a new wiki about the foodpairing website, which uses the foodpairing method. Drobbere (talk) 10:27, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Article no longer purports to be about a company

This article started by describing a company, then filled up space by describing the concept of "food pairing", which now has its own article. Major cleanup would have been called for, to the point that nothing with adequate, relevant sources indicating notability would have remained, I'm afraid. So I reverted the first paragraph to what it was, as of 13 June 2022--Quisqualis (talk) 01:50, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Where is the separate article about "food pairing"?

I can see ingredient-flavor network, and wonder if both this and that article should both be merged into a more general overview of "food pairing". The idea of pairing particular foods together obviously goes back thousands of years, rather than being something that Heston Blumenthal was the first person to notice. Belbury (talk) 17:44, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 27 January 2023

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Vpab15 (talk) 19:36, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

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Foodpairing → Food pairing – The current article title is that of a trademarked process and company name. But the idea of particular foods going well together isn't new (see Category:Food combinations), and a more generic article could and should be written on the subject, with the proprietary "Foodpairing®" process a section of that. Belbury (talk) 16:43, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

• Comment: Indeed, the article is written as a description of some trademarked method or brand name based on chemical analysis, which is not how flavor pairing has traditionally been done throughout history (and continues to be done by most people, who often do not use any particular "method" or principles when deciding which foods should be eaten together). The article is also not very well written and not very neutral. There will need to be a significant amount of rewriting if the scope is to be changed as described, and this particular method should not get an undue amount of attention in an article about the more general idea. It also seems likely that the selection of flavors that go well together may often involve more than just pairs – a full meal has more than two ingredients, and presumably a good chef or sommelier would consider more than two foods at a time. A title about the general idea could be something like Flavor combinations (or Flavour combinations). There is an article called Food combining, but it is about a completely different concept based on ideas about nutrition, not flavor. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 19:02, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

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Meat + starch = flavour pairing?

Are "chicken and rice" and "meat and bread (including in burgers, sandwiches and tacos)" meaningful pairings of flavours, in the sense of the article? The flavours of the rice and the bread don't seem that significant to these dishes, the same meat would go well served with any starch; any popular sandwich could be considered a pairing of its filling and the bread. Belbury (talk) 11:48, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Same goes for avocado toast which has been repeatedly reverted into the article as a food pairing. It's definitely a common food with a couple of ingredients, but I don't see that the two components specifically "go well together from a flavor standpoint", any more than a cheese sandwich.

There are hundreds of even more popular dishes that have two main ingredients, but they're not all meaningful "flavor standpoint" food pairings. Belbury (talk) 08:19, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

I think they are very important food pairings, yes. From sushi to sandwiches they are encountered everywhere. ModernDaySlavery (talk) 09:43, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

The article isn't about food combinations which are often encountered together, though, but specifically those which "go well together from a flavor standpoint" and/or "combine well with one another when they share key chemical compounds or flavor components".

Expanding the concept to include all popular and/or tasty foods with more than one ingredient (the current mix-and-match starch-plus-extras example says that a meat pizza with extra onions and green vegetables is a food pairing) seems meaningless. Belbury (talk) 10:13, 5 July 2024 (UTC)