Talk:Florian Schneider

cartographer?

I thought Schneider's father was an architect?

Any sources for either? --Der Sporkmeister 4 July 2005 18:56 (UTC)

Pascal Bussy's "Kraftwerk- Man, Machine and Music" book, and Wolfgang Flür's autobiography "I was a robot"...--feline1 5 July 2005 08:50 (UTC)

Wasn't Florian Schneider born in a town in the Bodensee: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/8880/rf.html

A 14-year-old daughter

People should realise when adding things like this that her age will change with time, and that it's much better to give a year of birth if one is known.--HisSpaceResearch 17:13, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Pissoff

The article states that he started off in an experimental group called Pissoff, which is startling but apparently true. Does "pissoff" mean anything in German, or is it just "piss off"? This page suggests the latter. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 15:18, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Ten years late, but that is the actual band title, with no translation. Wyliepedia @ 15:38, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Death

BBC says they had a statement about him passing a few days after his birthday, which is listed as April 7. But The Guardian publishes a confirmation from a musical collaborator saying he died last week, which puts it weeks away from the April 7 timeline. Rusted AutoParts 16:15, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

The statement quoted by the BBC allegedly comes from Kraftwerk themselves (see e.g. this Variety article). The Guardian's confirmation is no more reliable. As it stands, both confirmations place the death date in April, and after Schneider's birthday, so the article is presently as accurate as it can be. -- Pingumeister^(talk) 16:42, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Keep an eye out for a New York Times article. They're typically good at getting all information about a death (IE COD, DOD, etc.) Rusted AutoParts 17:59, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Noted. There's a short NYT article now, but with no DOD. There'll be a proper obituary published shortly. -- Pingumeister^(talk) 18:32, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

He passed in peace with Ralf, 2 robots crying. His last words were: “Thank you! I am not afraid of death. I had a good life. I am not sad, don’t be sad either!” Florian was buried on 7/5/19. - information is from Florian's family. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C7:9907:8501:18C8:18B9:4D9E:2A58 (talk) 22:31, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Mother's name

I corrected the name of his mother to Evamaria, based on the German Wikipedia, but was reverted. Sure, Ava Maria is more common, but I see that reputable sources have the other, [1], "... his wife, Evamaria van Diemen-Meyerhof (a half-Jewish writer whom he had married in 1946 against the will of his father, who remained a loyal Nazi)", [2] --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:05, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the info (and really interesting sources about the senior Schneider-Esleben). I'll make corrections to the article tomorrow if it still needs doing by then. Cheers -- Pingumeister^(talk) 02:41, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

I changed her name, and added a minimum of reference. Feel free, anybody, to format the ref, and use more detail. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:35, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Date of death

It seems we have a fairly reliable DOD of 30 April, given sources indicating a death on the last Thursday before 6 May, and at 'the end of April', but note that it may be subject to change. The Guardian article, for example, states 'a week ago' relative to 6 May, which indicates 29 April, but it is likely this is just approximate. -- Pingumeister^(talk) 13:10, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Update: his sister Claudia has confirmed 21 April via Instagram. This is now in the article, but strictly speaking a secondary source should be used! -- Pingumeister^(talk) 14:25, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Image of Florian Schneider

File:Florian Schneider and Kraftwerk.jpg

Florian Schneider and Kraftwerk

I contributed and I edited it back. Any particular reason that it was deleted. --Michael (talk) 08:57, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

@Audioboss: The image is purely decorative and provides no encyclopaedic value to the article – see MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE for the policy guideline. It is also misleading, being an original piece of art unaffiliated with Schneider or Kraftwerk. Also, please be careful. You removed many other people's changes when you recently reverted the article. You should have manually re-added the image and nothing else. -- Pingumeister^(talk) 11:21, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Sorry about that- If you do not agree with my image- I will just contribute it to other wiki pages. I thought that the image will help identify Mr Florian as a member of Kraftwerk with my tribute art. Michael (talk) 01:13, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Also because of many public domain laws. I can only make original sketches and artwork of Mr Florian that wikicommons can accept. My reference for my sketches are from public domain sources, but quality of those images are bad in qualityMichael (talk) 01:16, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

​ Your motivation is well-placed; I agree that the article would be improved with a picture of Schneider in context, with the other members of Kraftwerk. This artwork is just too stylised to provide that in an encyclopaedia, in my opinion! Also, note that some images may appear on Wikipedia regardless of their acceptability on Commons, if they carefully follow the policy at WP:IUP (and if they are specifically non-free content, they must follow the policy at WP:NFC). -- Pingumeister^(talk) 14:57, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

I am a professional artist and some of my contributed works have been recognized by other administrators. If you feel that my work in the can contribute, please allow my contribution in the entry. Also, I am translating Florian Schneider page into Tagalog language. I am just paying my tribute to one of my influences. I tried not to over stylize the work - The Kraftwerk background came from my photo of the show in Oakland a couple of years ago. Michael (talk) 16:15, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

The Bicycle Pump

Silly as this may seem, the Bicycle pump incident has been reported in many sources. I personally heard the story from a friend of Klaus Dinger when it occurred. I have heard no valid source on any other reason he left Kraftwerk, and several sources confirming this incident. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Farfisa2000 (talk • contribs) 05:46, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

The first source you yourself used, from cyclingmagazine.ca, says the bike pump rumour "turned out to be unfounded". So, which is it? True or false? -- Pingumeister^(talk) 18:03, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

France 24 outweighs "Canadian Cycling" and /www.side-line.com goes into more detail confirming what happened. /. Also "The Journal" an Irish paper reports the incident . And also mentioned on Yahoo Sports . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Farfisa2000 (talk • contribs) 20:59, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

The Side Line article can't be used as a source. It's just copied from the Wikipedia article as it was at the time (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Florian_Schneider&oldid=954232575). Dricherby (talk) 07:25, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

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