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Fencing tactics

Somebody created Fencing tactics. The content may be suitable as a section in this article. It needs a bit of copy ed. I'm not familiar with the sport, so I can't really do it. It is a speedy delete nom, so get it while it's hot. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:56, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Recommend Deleting this article - or merging it with the rest of the Fencing Article.

An article [[1]] already exists. This page should be deleted or merged. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antifencer (talk • contribs) 12:53, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I completely agree. There is a lot of good content on this page though, but it's just in the wrong place. I'm a little scared to do the merge myself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Merging It seems complicated. Jslimmer (talk) 23:17, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This article has grown to and become more rule-specific, I think it's worth keeping it as the rules article now.Jslimmer (talk) 13:59, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Propose Renaming

This article is different from the main fencing article in that it goes into detail on the competition rules, probably at a level that is too detailed for the main article. I propose keeping this article, but renaming it Fencing Rules and Competition to reflect the main focus.

In so doing, I also propose moving all of the "techniques" section either to the Fencing tactics article or to the main fencing article. Techniques is really quite a different subject from rules, and I think it makes sense to keep the two separate.Geoffrey.landis (talk) 15:02, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In the absence of commentary suggesting otherwise, I moved most of the "techniques" section of this article over to the Fencing tactics article, making this article now consist almost entirely competition rules. As a next step, I suggest renaming it Fencing Rules and Competition (with a redirect from the current title). Geoffrey.landis (talk) 19:25, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Totally agree, this article is no longer about practice or techniques, and I think this has become the defacto home for fencing rules. I think that in keeping with things like Baseball_rules and Ice_hockey_rules, and Judo_rules, that there is no need for this to be so verbose. I think that Fencing_Rules would be a decently descriptive title.Jslimmer (talk) 13:58, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Electronic Scoring section needs citation

The section on electronic scoring, and it's criticisms, is a verboten copy from here ([2]) without an attribution. I think one should at least be added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.246.102.251 (talk) 18:31, 11 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note that the site is a mirror of the content here; they attribute back to us at the bottom of the page. Kuru (talk) 23:45, 16 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Section entitled 'Right of Way rules ("priority")'

I've added the POV check template to the section entitled 'Right of Way rules ("priority")' because I'm not sure if the section has a neutral point of view. Please feel free to discuss this here.Ntmamgtw (talk) 18:34, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've renamed the section to 'Priority ("Right of way")' as rule books do not actually mention "Right of way" any more, even though it's common colloquially. Additionally, I would suggest that rather than use this section to try to explain priority in detail (which is complicated, requires lots of interpretation, and can't really be understood fully by writing alone), that instead we should explain very broadly that an attack has priority over a counter-attack and that a riposte has priority over a remise etc., Link to the official rules for anyone to delve into in further detail, and maybe have a small blurb that there is a degree of interpretation that FIE refs use, and maybe even have a small blurb about how some people disagree with the common interpreation.

That way it's all factual information without taking a normative position on anything.Jslimmer (talk) 12:20, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a bunch to the Priority section. I made a special effort to not put any definition of what an attack is or anything like that, and tried to make sure that what I wrote was pretty much universally agreed as true. I think that this can give laymen a basic clear idea of priority without getting bogged down into the minutiae of interpretation disagreements, which can be written upon in another sectionJslimmer (talk) 13:15, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 2 December 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved (closed by non-admin page mover) DannyS712 (talk) 04:25, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fencing practice and techniques → Fencing rules – The content of this page has drifted to only include content about fencing rules, either technical rules (playing area, participants, protocols, priority, penalties), material rules (Electronic scoring) or Organisational (Competition format). This content is all detailed under the Official FIE rulebooks. The only exception is a small section talking about techniques, but linking to a larger main article (Fencing_tactics). So it seems like the main content of this page is fencing rules, so probably should have that in the title somewhere. Additionally it would be in keeping with American_football_rules, Rules_of_basketball, Baseball_rules. There is currently no other page about the rules of fencing. Jslimmer (talk) 13:30, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.