Talk:Dangerous Visions

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Ouch! Lots of top-line SF authors without Wikipedia articles! Does anyone want to start in on these?

Dangerous Visions 3

Not yet published, according to the article, yet it is possible to find second-hand copies on the Internet using the ISBN search facility. What is the true situation? --Phil | Talk 15:03, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)

I suspect what you've got hold of here is part of the 3-volume paperback edition published by Sphere Books. Not a new book at all. Lee M 13:49, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Again Dangerous Visions

I suspect that an admin will be needed to disentangle this because I think the book title has the comma, but the page that Konczewski created does not have to comma. Currently there is a circular redirect. Hu 20:39, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Did it really need a split?

Here we have two books in a series getting two articles, while for example the hundreds of issues of Analog get just one article. Arguably the narrative read better giving the story of the Dangerous Visions series, rather than spliting it up. Notinasnaid 23:25, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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ISBN

The lead paragraph gives an ISBN while the infobox clearly says "NA". Would someone care to rationalize that? Varlaam (talk) 07:26, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The first six editions, from 1967-72, did not have ISBN's. Most later editions did. This particular ISBN is from the 1983 edition, which is neither the first edition with an ISBN, (which would be 0-451-07634-6), nor the most recent (that would be 978-0-575-10802-8), nor the most common (that would be 0-7434-5261-5 in the US and 978-0-575-10802-8 in the UK), so I don't know how they chose that particular ISBN for this book. But it is a correct ISBN for it. Darrah (talk) 17:10, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The origin of the structure?

Now, when I read this book, and ADV as well, in the early 1970s, the structure to me seemed novel or original or unique, with its prefatory and valedictory essays on every piece. One or two sentences of introduction in a short story collection, sure; an outright essay, no.
Forty years pass. Have I personally seen a precedent for this structure? No.
Until today.
Norman Mailer's Advertisements for Myself, 1959.
So was this in fact an established style when Ellison chose to use it once again?
Varlaam (talk) 07:42, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sci fi magazines had always had introductions to stories by the editor of the magazine, and writers hated it when these were too lengthy, florid, or gave the twist away. Critical editions of well-known works of literature tend to include one or more essays of a high scholarly standard, whose total length may equal or exceed that of the work. Single-author anthologies often include some remarks about the stories' genesis and reception by the author. So it is not strange to encounter non-fiction text between the stories. 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:7D50:A0D:4115:74EE (talk) 10:19, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reference for "Pathbreaking" claim?

It is pretty much well-known in the "Science Fiction world" that "Dangerous Visions" is considered to be "pathbreaking" or groundbreaking, but in the interest of correctness I wonder if this claim should be more-thoroughly referenced. I believe Robert Holdstock's "Octopus" Encyclopedia has a brief discussion of it.

The claim is fairly obviously derived from the self-promotional hype that surrounded it. I doubt that you can find a sound scholarly source that either measures any significant effect the book has had on sci-fi culture or even a consensus among its writers or fans that it was pathbreaking. Certainly the greats had been publishing material very much like it in the decades before DV appeared (Frederic Brown's short stories seem in particular to me just the sort of thing HE was aspiring to, as to a lesser extent Heinlein - both writers not included in DV). And I'm sure writers like John Varley and Greg Bear would have come along a few years later, with or without DV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:7D50:A0D:4115:74EE (talk) 10:10, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Date for Last Dangerous Visions

This entry says this book "will be published in 2023". The wikipedia page for the book itself says September 2024: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Dangerous_Visions — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7C:AA50:2400:FCAE:9E9F:49E3:9743 (talk) 05:52, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]