Talk:Enemies, A Love Story

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Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was move per request.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:08, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Enemies, a Love Story → Enemies, A Love Story – As the book cover on this very article shows, the A in the title is capped. It's capped both on the cover of a different edition and in the entry for it at Amazon.com. It's capped in the same cover and in its entry for it at Google Books. In the popular press, it's capped i a review of the movie adaptation in The Washington Post, to give just one of countless examples. Tenebrae (talk) 19:47, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: We should generally be following MOS:CT. The "official" capitalization that the author (or translator) & publisher uses (presumably copied by any retailer) is not what matters. Do all reliable sources capitalize the 'A'? —BarrelProof (talk) 04:23, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: MOS:CT was, indeed, an issue at Talk:Star Trek Into Darkness, where the guideline would have lowercased "into" despite every source including the filmmakers themselves capitalizing it. The feeling there was that having Wikipedia be the only place spelling it differently wouldn't be encyclopedic — that we'd be elevating our own rule over both the real-world norm and the creator's own work and intentions in an unambiguous case. --Tenebrae (talk) 14:24, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support We over-cap titles. If MOS:CT says use a small "a" at the beginning of a subtitle (I can't believe it does) then it is badly written and needs editing. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:19, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, MOS:CT supports this interpretation. "For titles with subtitles or parenthetical phrases, capitalize as if they were separate titles (e.g. "(Don't Fear) The Reaper")." --BDD (talk) 23:05, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support per MOS:CT, though I suspect this would have gone much quicker if the proposed title didn't just look wrong. Like with Star Trek, why couldn't the author just set off a subtitle with a colon like any civilized person? For this reason, I'd actually prefer Enemies: A Love Story. Is it WP:OR on our part to use a colon? No, I don't think so. This is a general English-language convention, akin to setting off short works in quotation marks and long works in italics. I also support the move as proposed, however. --BDD (talk) 23:05, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.