Talk:Empathic accuracy

This article was the subject of an educational assignment in Fall 2013. Further details were available on the "Education Program:University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA)/Psychology 220A (Fall, 2013)" page, which is now unavailable on the wiki.

Empathic accuracy was nominated as a Social sciences and society good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (March 7, 2014). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

course assignment

Hello! I am editing this article for a course assignment and through the APS WikiProject collaboration. I will be expanding it to include social psychology definitions and current neuroscience research. I plan to move the existing content on Rogerian psychotherapy to a historical section, since the term "empathic accuracy" has achieved recent status and importance within the field of social neuroscience. Lnbscnl (talk) 22:59, 19 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome Lnbscnl! Please remember that Wikipedia is not an academic paper or essay. Wikipedia articles should not be based on WP:primary sources, but on reliable, published secondary sources (for instance, journal reviews and professional or advanced academic textbooks) and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources (such as undergraduate textbooks). WP:MEDRS describes how to identify reliable sources for medical information, which is a good guideline for many psychology articles as well. With friendly regards, Lova Falk talk 09:05, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Empathic accuracy/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: ChrisGualtieri (talk · contribs) 05:37, 6 January 2014 (UTC) I'll take this. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 05:37, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Comments: The article has several issues. The lead does not summarize the contents of the article. The article has a minor issues with prose and a lack of inline citations that result in some appearances of OR. These issues are likely easily rectified and I must commend all the work done on breaking down the complex terminology that comes with the subject matter. The "layman's terms" are not easy, but they are the primary demographic that will read the article. A few specific things to consider fixing are:

". But, according to Rogers, self-actualization could not be accomplished until the need for positive regard, positive self-regard, and having a self-concept were gained, so having empathy as one of the main guidelines in therapy helps to move the client towards self-actualization. Empathy in Rogers's client-centered therapy is to better understand the client and his or her issues."
"The Rogerian view is based on Carl Roger's Client-Centered Therapy, and uses three criteria to measure empathic accuracy. These criteria include having repeated assessments of the perceiver's empathic accuracy, such as testing how accurate the perceiver can "read" other's thoughts and feelings. After the initial testing, the psychologist then allows the perceiver to generate their own inferences of the specific content provided by the psychologist. Lastly, the psychologist needs to operationally define empathic accuracy to fully understand and identify exactly what he or she is looking for within the perceiver." - cites
" Theory theory is more cognitive in that we find meaning in other’s behaviors and contextual cues, and put these together to construct an idea of what that person’s internal mental state is like."
"theory theory has basically been proven a straw man," - Explain better.
"When considering the importance of the mirror system in empathic accuracy this deficit makes sense, as people who have difficulty recognizing their own emotions likely would show less brain activation in those regions, which are also used in recognizing others' emotions." seems like OR.

Just do a quick copy edit and I think with the fixes it should pass without issue. Just make sure to fix the WP:WORDS issues. Going to place this on hold for fixes. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 16:52, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment

ChrisGualtieri, this has been on hold for over a month and a half, and the nominator hasn't edited since November 26 of last year. It's time to close this; you could make the fixes yourself and pass it, or close it as unsuccessful as it is. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:39, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I honestly hate to fail this... and as of late most of my GA reviews have all been failures. But more than enough time has passed. I am incapable of getting through this "theory theory" and other terms and the whole lack of argument on why "theory theory" is "proven" to be a strawman without evidence is not proper writing and might equal a NPOV issue. Sorry, but this is way overdue for a fail. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 17:26, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]