Talk:Emily Cummins

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Whilst I'm happy to say that Emily is my friend I feel that her achievements which are readily and easily verifiable on the internet make her a person more than worthy of a place on Wikipedia.

As well as winning numerous awards- Shell Technology Woman of The Future, British Female Innovator of The Year and The National Sustainable Design Award, she is also an ambassador for numerous charitable organisations and a fellow of the RSA.

There will be more content added to this page as I learn to edit and use Wikipedia to it's full potential.

I hope that this helps to explain the reasons for adding this article.

Uh, no. You haven't given us any independent, reliable sources so that we can verify anything you wrote. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 19:06, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do website links work as reliable evidence? She designed a fridge for Africa that doesnt use electricity- was going to link that in, it for storing medicines - where electricity is in short supply.

Please see -

http://www.womenofthefuture.co.uk/(zvkk4055qizbhd450awlqfji)/show.aspx?channelID=667

http://www.sda-uk.org/news.html

http://makeyourmark.org.uk/inspiring_stories/emily_cummins

http://www.youngeng.org/UserFiles/File/News%20and%20Events/Fulcrum%2017%20Newsletter.pdf —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tim2709 (talk • contribs) 19:11, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Would you like some more information? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tim2709 (talk • contribs) 19:29, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

next steps

As the reviewing administrator, I declined to delete the article via speedy , as notability is claimed. But to keep the article , it has to be shown by reliable sources, as well as claimed. Her web site will not do; the web sites of those giving the awards are also not really enough, because we do not know the significance of the awards. If they are important, the story will have been covered in some newspapers, magazines, of video broadcasts. We need two of these. Please add the material--quickly, as the article will almost certainly be nominated for deletion otherwise. And be prepared to argue that they are significant on a national level at least. DGG (talk) 19:54, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Out of curiosity, I'll take a shot at sourcing this and see if it comes up to notability standards. -- ArglebargleIV 23:04, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, there's one pass at it. What do y'all think? -- ArglebargleIV 23:47, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Its great, much better - i am new to this so it has really helped - one point though, emily won the women of the future award mainly with her fridge not the water carrier. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tim2709 (talk • contribs) 00:32, 1 October 2007 (UTC) {{helpme}}[reply]

One more question - on the page it says that this article does not cite any references or sources and it is uncategorized - how can this be sorted?. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tim2709 (talk • contribs) 00:41, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've asked DGG to take a look at the article again, since that editor placed the "unsourced" tag. I still think the article could use some more work, but it's moving along. The category yoiu put in is a good start as well. -- ArglebargleIV 01:01, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The two articles in the Independent help--they obviously think her important. I'm not sure of the rest. Using the sources, perhaps a slightly longer description could be written--not much,m or it will seem to puffy. The question is,has she actually done anything, or is she merely making the most of her student-level accomplishments. If you can find another news source then it will probably pass Afd, but things there are unpredictable. I changed the tag. DGG (talk) 01:08, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Does the news source need to be national or can it be regional? the competitions which she won were on national levels and Emily was the in the women of the future competition,so it was a massive achievement for her to win, as the competition was open to under 35's and she was 19...i dont think this is classed as a student level accomplishment, is it? She was also invited to buckingham palace to meet the queen to celebrate women in business - there is an article on this - will that be useful? She also speaks at many events about being a inventor and a entrepreneur to inspire young people - do articles on this count either? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tim2709 (talk • contribs) 01:22, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I know that Emily won this award for inventing this evaporative refridgerator, but considering that the technology has been around for ages(hint seek evaporative cooling on wikipedia) it seems wrong to credit her with the invention... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.153.139.154 (talk) 00:47, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with above comment. From my understanding, she didn't invent anything nor did she improve any existing designed. She just repackage a known invention. Her achievement seems to be overblown by uninformed media. She is admirable in term of effort but for notability I don't think effort is enough. 76.219.230.165 (talk) 06:43, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Various newspapers have written about Emily but none of the science journals have reported Emily's invention because this idea has been around & used long before Emily was born. Children learn from this website and we are not doing them a service by promoting plagiarism. By all means, help stop wastage and promote recycling. Please don't give false information about the pot-in-pot refrigerator, zeer, swamp cooler and many other names this device has been called from the last 4,500 years. Emily was first brought to my attention by my daughter who saw a video on the internet where Emily says she invented this and this is how it works... It does not work how Emily says (by the sun) and even a child can see filling it with soil or sand would be no good as this would fall out the 'futuristic science fiction holes'. It is outrageous someone can make such claims and accept awards for this - even if the awards are for 'Woman of the year' rather than from a 'scientific discovery' body. It saddens me greatly to think many people believe this tale and actually promote it without having a clue about science or where things come from. I am equally surprised Leeds University (who Emily often references) don't disassociate from Emily - this does not add to the university's credibility.

A 'pot to piss in' ( dirty water ) that keeps food cool and hygienic! This is actually a regressive (dis)invention as food hygiene requires a separation of dirt from food. Effectively this invention covers the outside of a fridge with waste water, brown water or dirty water. Its immoral and must not be supported => food + dirty = bad. Perhaps there is an opportunity to further enhance this 'invention' with a commode. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.7.92.68 (talk) 18:29, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]