Talk:Edward Wheler Bird

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PROD removal

PROD concern stated as "Very short article, notability queried a week ago and no reply." I note that the subject's name was actually spelled Edward Wheler Bird (though it often appears as Wheeler), and under the correct spelling I find more biographical information in The Jews and the Expansion of Europe to the West, 1450-1800 [1]. An entry in the Dictionary of Canadian Biography, Volume 13 for someone else gives his pseudonym (Philo-Israel) and the name of the weekly magazine, Banner of Israel, which he founded in 1877 [2]. Other books with a small amount of info are The Forging of Races: Race and Scripture in the Protestant Atlantic World, 1600–2000 [3], Religion and the Racist Right: The Origins of the Christian Identity Movement (also names the magazine) [4] and Britain's Maritime Empire: Southern Africa, the South Atlantic and the Indian Ocean, 1763–1820 (also names his pseudonym) [5]. There is probably more in academic journals, and there are certainly contemporary newspaper reports about the organisation. It would be possible to write a short article, if he is considered notable. RebeccaGreen (talk) 04:41, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am open to persuasion, but it would help if you incorporated some of this into the article, even if only under external links. PatGallacher (talk) 15:01, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable Sources

Previously, the only two listed sources were Carew's Tara and the Ark of the Covenant and a book review of that book in the Irish Times. I removed the book review because based on other reliable sources, it's not terribly accurate. I would also question the accuracy of Carew's book in general as a reliable source. Bird was not an "Anglo-Indian" - he was British (Anglo), born in India, which was at the time part of the Empire. He was not a judge - his father was. Bird himself worked in the Madras Civil Service. Lastly, it suggests that he "founded" the "British Israel movement," which is also erroneous. He was involved in promoting it - and good at it - but he did not "found" the movement. I suspect that came from a misreading of some sources that indicate he founded the Anglo-Israel Association. He certainly was an officer of that group, and may possibly have been involved in founding it - but that's a far cry from founding an entire movement. I left the listing of Carew, but I would suggest removing it as unreliable. RebeccaGreen has indicated some more reliable sources above, one of which I cited in a recent set of edits. Butlerblog (talk) 21:34, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]