Talk:Eddie Adams (photographer)/Archives/2013/December

The people shown in Adams' Pulitzer Prize-winning photo

The information about the assassin should belong on Nguyen Ngoc Loan's page I think, it makes more sense than to include it on the biography page of a photographer.--MarshallBagramyan 19:18, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Executed captive Nguyen Van Lem

User Odea removed the following sentence from my contribution: "Sontag did not name Lém nor did she make mention of him being suspected of the murder of a family." I have read Regarding the Pain of Others and there is - as far as I could see - no mention of who Lém was. I also altered the wording of my original sentence which could have been read as a straigh forward accusation of Lém, and noted that he was 'suspected' of murder and not a "murderer". Odea initially added 'citation needed' to which I cited Sontag's book (I though it obvious enough given my previous cition in the preceeding sentence). Do I have to cite every single page Sontag fails to mention Lém??? --Mininuni (talk) 19:56, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

An addition was made to this article on 30 October 2004, stating that Nguyen Van Lem (the person who is executed in Adams' Pulitzer Prize-winning photograph) was the proud leader of a Viet Cong assasination platoon who had just murdered 34 civilians, including many woman and children. No sources are cited, and the allegations are not supported by any of the external links found at the end of the article. This is in breach of Wikipedia:Citing_sources and the Verifiability policy. A single "allegedly" (added by another editor in a well-meaning attempt to "make it slightly less POV", i.e. less biased) doesn't really help, and it violates Wikipedia:Avoid_weasel_words.

It seems that precious little is actually known about Nguyen Van Lem's life and actions, leaving a blank space that can be filled with propaganda from either side. But Wikipedia is not a soapbox for propaganda or advocacy of any kind. It is concerned with verifiable information. The point that the subject of this article, photographer Eddie Adams, was actually sympathetic to the executioner and regretted that the picture damaged his reputation, is already amply made in the article, and that is certainly a point which deserves mention. But a paragraph that states as fact, without offering any evidence whatsoever, that the person who was executed was himself a monster who relished killing women and children, has to go. So I am going to remove it.

More generelly speaking, and rephrasing MarshallBagramyan's comment above, I agree that information about the people in the photograph belong in the articles about them rather than in the article about the photographer.

--Bwiki 04:04, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Copyvio in biography

Everything from "Adams began his photography career" (seventh paragraph?) until "sixty-five heads of state" (end of eighth) is directly copied from http://www.eddieadamsworkshop.com/info/?c=bio, as far as I can tell. I'm going to remove it until someone can prove that the user that added it (User:Jessstuart) had permission or is the original author, which I doubt. Aaronbeekay 19:03, 27 May 2007 (UTC)