Talk:Conroy Ryder, 8th Earl of Harrowby

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Cleanup

I have cleaned up this page a bit. Thanks to the creator of this page, who I urge to complete the process. Wikipedia does not exist to list all the members of a family, unless that person has achieved something worth noting on the encyclopedia; it is not Burke's or Debrett's peerage. Heirs are an exception since they would gain the title in due course.

I have a feeling that my changes to the page will merely be reverted without the contributor adding to the discussion. I urge you not to do so until you have read the Manual of Style, and to ask yourself "am I adding all this information back because I feel it is important for me, or for wikipedia and society in general to know all the exhaustive information about this family?" If you are doing it for yourself and not for others, please set up a web-page to display all the information you would like, and leave it off the encyclopedia. Major Bloodnok 09:32, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dudley Ryder, Viscount Sandon

Wrt you edit, there's nothing unwiki about listing the family of any person who themselves merits an article, see a feature article example like Frederick_Hamilton-Temple-Blackwood,_1st_Marquess_of_Dufferin_and_Ava which does exactly that with full use of their courtesy titles. Family gets a mention in most articles but for peers it tends to be rather more formal simply because it has complex consequences wrt to succession. I haven't fully restored the previous info as I can't verify the accuracy of it at present. I can't see much point for the stepchildren nor unless they have been legally adopted could they use the styles given. But again that info would need sourcing. When you're editing trying to use a pipe [joe bloggs|Hon joe bloggs] so you don't lose the form while not including it in the article title. Alci12 19:03, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Positions Held

Dudley Ryder held the Convenor of Debates at the Newcastle University Union Society in the 1971-72 session. Should we add this?

Yes.--Counter-revolutionary 18:49, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]