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On 24 May 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from Domestic yak to Yak. The result of the discussion was moved.

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Ganzi Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture -- neither "autonomous" nor "Tibetan"

A subheading of a picture showing a yak notes that the area is the "Ganzi Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture." This is a name of a locality, but one that deliberatly contains political disinformation.

Given Wikipedia's policy of publishing the truth, rather than disseminating poltical lies and propaganda, I object to the subheading. The prefecture is not Tibetan, in that it is not ruled in any way by Tibetans, or even necessarily populated by Tibetans. Rather, it is ruled by Chinese, who have invaded and occupied Tibet against the manifest will of the indigenous population and then have so swamped the country by Chinese immigration that the Tibetans are now a minority in their own country.

The same argument holds against the "Autonomous" part of the name. In very few ways are even Han Chinese prefectures in China 'autonomous,' and certainly not those of ethnicities other than the Han and never any other than in China proper. As are most peoples around the globe, the Chinese are racists, but unlike other peoples, they have the military power to inflict their wishes on their neigbors.

But the location is still in historic Tibet. Perhaps a different name would be called for. I suggest "Ganzi Provence of Chinese-Occupied Tibet."

64.134.158.137 (talk) 16:47, 22 February 2015 (UTC)J.E. Johnson, Oregon[reply]

The name used should match that at the article on the region. That is, at present, Garzê Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture, so that's the one we should use here. If you want it changed, you'll have to discuss re-naming that page at WP:RQM rather than here. We can always adjust this page after consensus is reached at the primary page, if necessary. Anaxial (talk) 17:04, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Split material to wild yak

Text and/or other creative content from this version of Yak was copied or moved into Wild yak with this edit. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Wild yak was created yesterday (by Dennis the mennis) as a stub. I'm not sure if the editor intended to further develop that article, but I am quite in agreement with a split of yak into separate articles for the domesticated and the wild variant, since these are currently treated as separate species. This had been proposed earlier (see above) but seems to have gone nowhere. In this case, I have been bold and performed a split according to my best ability. I have done the entire thing in a single movement so that it can easily be undone if desired.

I have moved all material pertaining only to wild yaks to the new article; added short summaries together with a 'Main article' link for two sections ("Taxonomy" and "Reproduction"); and added a "Conservation" section. There is substantial overlap between the "Physical characteristics" (yak) and "Description" (wild yak), but I think that might be acceptable. I have also changed the redirect domestic yak to point to yak, for the time being (it used to point to the "Domesticated yak" section in that article).

If the split is retained, I would suggest moving yak to Domestic yak, and linking both articles in Yak (disambiguation).

Comments welcome! --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 10:58, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The article has been moved to domestic yak, to which yak now redirects.--Elmidae (talk · contribs) 07:45, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

But the Wikidata link still points to Bos mutus, either the whole species in biological taxonomy, or the wild form in yours. --Stupid girl (talk) 16:58, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You wanna fix it? I don't know my way around Wikidata.--Elmidae (talk · contribs) 17:37, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 24 May 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 14:52, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Domestic yak → Yak – I think Domestic yak should be moved to Yak because it already redirects here. Christiancardenas732 (talk) 19:41, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support for simplicity, yak has plenty of incoming links. JIP | Talk 19:54, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Yak already redirects here, so this article is already considered the primary topic, and "yak" is certainly a more common name. This move is also WP:CONSISTENT with other similar article titles such as Goat and Wild goat, and Water buffalo and Wild water buffalo, with the domestic variety being the primary topic. Rreagan007 (talk) 14:42, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support What JIP said. For simplicity's sake. Ms.23 (talk) 18:14, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I'm not sure that this is primary over Wild yak. Better to create a disambuation page at Yak. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:31, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Good point, the proposed change would be similar to Horse vs Wild Horse. Although the current set up is similar to Domestic turkey and Wild turkey. In the turkey case, Turkey (bird) is a page that refers to the different types of turkeys. I don't think a page covering the different types of yaks would be necessary though because there is only one species. --Pithon314 (talk) 21:32, 29 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - I don't think a disambiguation page is a good idea for just two. A hatnote at the top of the Yak article can handle it. In the turkey case, the country Turkey is the primary, and a hatnote directs to the broad concept article at Turkey (bird). Rreagan007 (talk) 02:02, 31 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - To what Pithon stated about only one species. If it matters, according to the articles, these are two distinct species: Bos grunniens and Bos mutus — Domestic yak and wild yak respectively. Is this not correct? Still just two at most, so I otherwise agree that a disambiguation page is not necessary. --DB1729 (talk) 02:40, 31 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support In Nepal, generally when one talks about a Yak, it is a domestic one. nirmal (talk) 08:24, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support Seems like a reasonable move. --DB1729 (talk) 02:40, 31 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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The yak (Bos grunniens) is a species of long-haired domesticated cattle in the family Bovidae. It is found throughout the Himalayas in Pakistan, India, the Tibetan Plateau of China, Tajikistan, and as far north as Mongolia and Siberia, Russia. Yak physiology is well adapted to high altitudes and cold weather, featuring larger lungs and heart than other cattle, a greater capacity for transporting oxygen through their blood and a thick layer of subcutaneous fat. Yaks have been domesticated in areas such as Mongolia and Tibet, primarily for their fibre, milk and meat, and as beasts of burden. Yaks' milk is often processed to a cheese called chhurpi in the Tibetan and Nepali languages, and byaslag in Mongolia, while butter made from yaks' milk is an ingredient of Tibetan butter tea. This yak was photographed near the river Chuya in the Altai Republic, a region in southern Siberia.

Photograph credit: Alexandr Frolov

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Dry matter intake as percentage of body weight

The article currently says "Yak consume the equivalent of 1% of their body weight daily" but https://www.fao.org/4/ad347e/ad347e0x.htm says in the paragraph which starts with "Liu et al. (1997) reported that" that it is in the range from 3.1 percent to 3.7 percent. Great Galactic Number Nerd (talk) 00:02, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]